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Harpman:

--- Quote from: dpdan on December 19, 2014, 04:52:23 PM ---clapper,, really?  ;( No wonder people's videos are have sunc issues.
I know the method but if someone is still doing that they need to move into the next century.

You import all your footage into Final Cut Pro X, "select all" then right click and choose "create multicam clip".

In a few minutes for a two hour show, FCPX will automatically sync all the footage with sample accuraracy.
I then do a rough cut of editing then export that .MOV to Digital Performer as a reference while I am mixing audio.

Once the audio is mixed to my liking, I export the stereo 48K/24bit wave file from DP then import it into FCPX.
Of course youtube STILL does not have their audio and video in sync after all these years, I make a separate MPEG4 file with the audio two frames early just for youtube so that it "IS" in sync.

NO, I can not email or send you a file for you to test, each one is over 2GB... and there are 24 of them.

Dan

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Dan,

Unless the audio (.wav) has timecode built into it, I don't know how accurate bringing audio and video from 2 different sources is going to be perfect.  Back in the day I worked a lot with SMPTE and RC Time Code (Sony) and those were standards then.  Unfortunately, most consumer programs and hardware don't support either these days. So unless the DL32R is producing "Broadcast wav" files, there is no time code embedded.  I don't know much about FCPX, but I can't imagine it being much different than Adobe Premiere. I'm mainly a PC user, so I use Adobe Premiere CC 2014 versus FCPX.  When I record video, I also record audio from the camera for the sole purpose of aligning the audio from the other source (i.e. DL32R or in my case Focusrite 18i20's). And yes, I use the same sample accuracy on both sources.  Whether the drummer hits his snare, I clap my hands or use an electronic clapper (for iPad), I'm able to align my audio waveform recorded on my HD camcorder to the audio recorded from the other source.  I then mute (or delete) the audio track from the HD Camcorder. IMHO, I don't think your method is any less accurate or more accurate than my method.  Whether I need to nudge the framing back or forward (as you stated regarding YouTube) is par for the course.  So I'm curious, if the recording stops at 9 minute intervals, what is the size of the 9 minute interval and how many do you have to append to each other to get 2GB?  My issue with that 9 minute interval is that the band can start a tune at 8m30s and at 9m, it starts another file, which due to record latency, can cut part of a verse, chorus, solo, etc.   Not efficient in my book.  So Mackie designs this small compact 32-channel mixer with no need to dock an iPad, provides a platform (velcro) for your HD and Airport, but in order to get "seemless and contiguous" recording, you have to lug your laptop to the gig as well?  No worries on sending the files.  Was hoping for a 9 minute snippet x 24.   Can't be that big, can it?  Takes me 2-4 minutes to download a 2GB file, but then again, not everyone in the country has the bandwidth that I have (75/75)  ;). BTW, how is external drive formatted (i.e. FAT16/FAT32)?  There is a 2GB file limitation on both these technologies and maybe that's why the DL creates a new file @ 9m?

nottooloud:

--- Quote from: Harpman on December 20, 2014, 06:47:51 PM ---Unless the audio (.wav) has timecode built into it, I don't know how accurate bringing audio and video from 2 different sources is going to be perfect. 

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I don't know much about FCPX, but I can't imagine it being much different than Adobe Premiere.

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FCPX just deals with it. You hand it a bunch of unsynced audio and video files. It looks for points of similarity, and stretches/shrinks everything to fit as needed. It has revolutionized video.

Harpman:
Then maybe its worth me investing the $300

Harpman:
Its all about simplicity for me.

Harpman:
Looks like Adobe Premiere CC has Multicam and Audio based syncing like FCPX.  Going to try that before I make another investment in software.

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