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Unofficial Mackie User Forums => DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers => Topic started by: RoadRanger on November 28, 2013, 03:22:15 PM
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Behringer has pulled all info about the iX16 off their website. I hope none of yous guys were waiting for it :P .
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Look on the bright side it's not listed in the discontinued models. As I suspected the demand for all their new products has overwhelmed their production capacity. I guessed that it's going to be one of the first products produced in the new factory a year from now.
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I wonder if Mackie is filing a lawsuit. It wouldn't be the first time.
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Actually there was this post on Sound Forums Network last month from a Behringer dude:
Dear All,
The iX16 has gone through a major redesign, adding many new features. These exciting enhancements have delayed release and as such we do not have a ship date currently available. However we promise you that the wait will be worth it! Thanks for your patience.
Best,
John DiNicola
Senior Specialist, Product Support
MUSIC Group
BEHRINGER
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From behringer re ix16:
"The iX16 has gone through a major redesign, adding many new features. These exciting enhancements have delayed release and as such we do not have a ship date currently available. However we promise you that the wait will be worth it! Thanks for your patience."
And:
"please wait until Namm. You will be surprised..."
I am sure they are redesigning it to reflect the current state of the iPad. They are probably also reading comments about the dl1608s limitations and trying to make sure they improve on them. I wouldn't be suprised if they have visited this forum and mackies uservoice. It would only be smart of them to do so.
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Greg you beat me to it.
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Kinda old news they're just removing the old trial balloon iX16. Back in October Uli hinted at this carefully.
Re: Uli Behringer of The Music Group Q&A
Dear William,
We have decided to redesign the iX16 and make fundamental changes based on very valuable customer feedback. However at this stage we are not able to talk about it in more detail.
While we understand that there are many customers waiting for the iX16, once the unit will be released, I am sure you will agree that it was worth the wait. With the exception of the iX16, we have now concluded the shipment of all other X32 mixers which we introduced at Namm 2013.
Our German engineering team is feverishly working on the new and very powerful 2.0 firmware upgrade for the X32 Series and we hope to show a Beta version at Namm.
Warm regards
Uli
So at NAMM 2014 we will see the new iX16 (maybe?). I'm waiting for a reply to my follow up on this. Responses are hit and miss with Uli.
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That's my Xmas shopping ruined ;)
Whatever will I buy the Humbug now?
Edit: Xmas 2015 that is......
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Further to my previous post..........
Mackie delayed some software and got roasted.
I'm waiting curiously to see the backlash, or lack thereof, after this merry dance.
Anybody got their X32 rack yet?
BTW RR, love the post title :lol:
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Not a peep - a global outpouring of indifference about the demise of the "DL killer".
Maybe the DL with MF2.0 has become the "iX16 killer"?
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I'm hoping that Mackie is working on an X32 Rack killer :) .
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I'm hoping that Mackie is working on an X32 Rack killer :) .
Bring it on!!
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I think I already listed what I hate about the Rack, but:
I want no controls on it and all inputs on the front, outputs are OK on the back for me although on the front even better.
Shrinking it down to 2U would be awesome :).
20 XLR/combo ins and 10 XLR outs would be fine :) .
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I think I already listed what I hate about the Rack, but:
I want no controls on it and all inputs on the front, outputs are OK on the back for me although on the front even better.
Shrinking it down to 2U would be awesome :).
20 XLR/combo ins and 10 XLR outs would be fine :) .
....Dear Santa,
I've been a good boy all year, can you get me a DL32 rack just like Uncle RR has described above please.....
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You two guys are going to have a long wait. Mackie had a shot at a rack configuration of the DL1608 instead they came out with the DL806 abomination. The current hardware in the DL1608 could easily fit into a 2 or 3U rack but it would have cost about the same so as not to compete with themselves they opted for half capable unit at the same size IMHO. Dumb is all I can say. Probably from the same marketing team of one that thinks psychedelic weirdos are their customers. Don't bring up that $100 rack mount option. :lol:
What year for Christmas were you hoping for?? Would a spay can of paint and a Mackie sticker do the job?
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Agreed. About as likely as Santa Claus coming to your house and stuffing his fat ass down your chimney.
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Mackie had a shot at a rack configuration of the DL1608 instead they came out with the DL806 abomination. The current hardware in the DL1608 could easily fit into a 2 or 3U rack
i love this idea, but how would we be docking the ipads?
i'm having good luck with a 2' cablejive extender cable so i can plug my ipad 3 in while leaving it in its case (naked ipads and bars don't mix) but it's still just that, luck; i have to be sure to charge to 100% before the show so the charge circuit doesn't create line noise problems, while so far the wifi alternative is still a little dodgy depending on the room.
i suspect there would need to be a more robust version of wifi technology and a more robust (and apple-approved) cable solution before a rackmount "stagebox" version of the DL became viable.
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Mackie had a shot at a rack configuration of the DL1608 instead they came out with the DL806 abomination. The current hardware in the DL1608 could easily fit into a 2 or 3U rack
i love this idea, but how would we be docking the ipads?
i'm having good luck with a 2' cablejive extender cable so i can plug my ipad 3 in while leaving it in its case (naked ipads and bars don't mix) but it's still just that, luck; i have to be sure to charge to 100% before the show so the charge circuit doesn't create line noise problems, while so far the wifi alternative is still a little dodgy depending on the room.
i suspect there would need to be a more robust version of wifi technology and a more robust (and apple-approved) cable solution before a rackmount "stagebox" version of the DL became viable.
Well you, I and everyone that has a fruit product has a 40" Apple approved USB cable (charger cable). I have already reliably extended that thru a USB hub communicating with a PC USB port. The serial full duplex communication line should not be a challenge for any reasonable talented engineer (well maybe not Mackie's). As to the "robustness" of WiFi it's not the problem airwaves congestion is. Ultra reliability can only be achieved by Audio wireless having their own frequency band. Yes the FCC may have to eventually come to grips with that reality.
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Quote from WK154:
"The serial full duplex communication line should not be a challenge for any reasonable talented engineer (well maybe not Mackie's)."
Aw c'mon, that's just mean! It's the season of goodwill, won't you say something nice about the designers pretty please? At least they were able to bring a functioning product to market. I know you have caveats about it but it's tangible and improving with each update.
Go on, it's almost Christmas, take a few glasses of good stuff and give them even half a nod ;)!?
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Bah Humbug! ;D Why couldn't they get it right in the first place. I don't want them to go away but I also don't want them to lower the standards of expectation for products in this price range. The last major project I was on relating to this type of problem was for the USAF MATS field communication kit were I was responsible for inter-processor communications and the X.25 (modified) serial link. Yah I know it's a little extreme but a show stopper wouldn't fly there and shouldn't here. I know how gear can sit there and look at each other stupidly but there are well known solutions for this. My guess on what's happening here. The recovery logic is faulty and appears to be on the DL side of things. The cause may well be hardware but you can deal with it in software. That's done every day in the computer field (retry and error recovery, voting logic if need be). If I had to take a guess at the software manpower Mackie has on this product I would say no more than two part time.