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Unofficial Mackie User Forums => DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers => Topic started by: WK154 on December 21, 2014, 12:49:51 AM
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That event is scheduled for Jan 22-25th a little over a month from now. What will be new in the MI business? It's a target date to a lot of businesses in the Music Industry for introducing new products and of course selling futures. What will Mackie bring to the table? DL16r? ;)
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That's wishful thinking. (We could get lucky!)
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I can't see the point of rehousing the guts of the dl in to a new box,this is not a criticism but it seems from comments on here, the wish lists that exist elsewhere that the product needs some serious improvements and killer features to set it apart from all the other up and coming soon to arrive never type products.
I think it's a nap that that every man and his dog will be pitching an 8 to 32 channel digi desk with ipad remote control at namm,
I am just not holding my breath, although I guess a few of you wish I was.
Kev :)
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it seems from comments on here, the wish lists that exist elsewhere that the product needs some serious improvements and killer features
The only things left on my DL wishlist are multitrack recording and MIDI control so I can use a hardware fader bank. I don't expect to see either of those, and that's fine. I think they've done a great job of bringing it up to functionality.
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My wish list would be limited to fixing sync and adding multichannel recording/playback). One of the topics I discussed with BenO. You can currently record and play back stereo (2 channels) so using AAC with about a 8 to one compression ratio over wav has the same amount of data to pass (2x8=16). If you think AAC is not good enough for this use, well the majority have no problem listening to it. Remember that this is not a recording studio application. Oh he said they would look into it. :)
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I don't know about the DL hardware, but the iPad interface is certainly capable of handling multichannel uncompressed. There are several fully functioning DAWs.
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One more thing for that far in the future list would be Metcom's effort on OSC or at least AudioBus compatibility. Yes the iPad can handle much higher data rates as could the DL but just to deal with the pundits here I made it simple to understand.
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Fair enough. And yep, OSC would be lovely.
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Nobody seems to be doing MIDI or OSC on the little mixers. It seems like such an obvious feature. "Don't like our interface? Here, roll your own."
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Nobody seems to be doing MIDI or OSC on the little mixers. It seems like such an obvious feature. "Don't like our interface? Here, roll your own."
Doesn't the X32 Rack qualify? It has both. Yes someone already rolled their own on Android.
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Doesn't the X32 Rack qualify?
As a little mixer? Not to me. When I fly to some gigs, my FOH isn't checked. It's not even in my carryon. It's in my personal, the thing you get to bring along with your overhead carryon. I also have university gigs where all I bring is a mixer to replace whatever godawful thing they had installed last century, and I can go to those with my FOH strapped on the back of my motorcycle.
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Hence your purchase of the Touchmix. I queried them early on about some of their interfaces (USB,Network) and didn't like what I heard. The manual is also unlike them, full of errors. Bet their working on it though for that magic date Jan. 22 NAMM 2015.
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That's what they say. Mine's on the shelf at the moment, waiting for the update to fix the pretty much completely nonfunctional WIFI. Ad-hoc only? Are you fucking kidding me?
The update is supposed to implement full networking functionality, including USB-ethernet dongles. We'll see. Then they can start working on everything else that they screwed up. I'm really disappointed. I get that they wanted to start fresh, but they completely ignored over a decade of the stuff other people figured out correctly. It's mostly fixable. I don't get a warm fuzzy feeling from them in the forum, though. "Your DAW can't handle our 32 bit files which all have the same name? Fix it yourself."
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I hear you and they certainly didn't do it right. I may have to go to one of our AES meetings and ask Bob Lee what's going on. They were also about 3 yrs. behind. ::)
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I may have to go to one of our AES meetings and ask Tom Lee what's going on. They were also about 3 yrs. behind. ::)
Bob Lee
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I may have to go to one of our AES meetings and ask Tom Lee what's going on. They were also about 3 yrs. behind. ::)
Bob Lee
:thu: Been awhile
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I'll be there.
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I won't be there but it should be another interesting year. Midas's M32R looks quite interesting at hopefully the right price. Then of course there is Triple X from B.. What surprises in marketing are we in for there? Mackie of course is silent. Will there be a DL16R or just a bunch more mediocre speakers? QSC should have another model. A&H might just go for rack-mount stuff. Yamaha should be ready for some new gear from Line 6. Post any new-found previews here as you run across them. :)
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Almost 100 new products promised is unsustainable. Wonder how many are marketing tests. I once counted Music groups analog mixer selection and it was over 80. Is Uli trying to match that in digital? Two more days and the announcements at 11:00 AM.
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Almost 100 new products promised is unsustainable. Wonder how many are marketing tests. I once counted Music groups analog mixer selection and it was over 80. Is Uli trying to match that in digital? Two more days and the announcements at 11:00 AM.
Unfortunately a lot of people considering new equipment will be taken in by the Be****ger hype and will wait, and wait and wait. Often for products that will never see the light of day or are years away from production. (Anyone actually got an X16/18 yet - must be nearly two years since it was conceived?)
Distraction or misdirection, whichever it is, all the hype and bluff probably denies other companies sales so they'll probably keep doing it.
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On the other hand it could also work against them by giving the competition time to come out with competing products. ;)
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Holy Schmidt!!!
I want one of these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgiafRgv3YU&app=desktop
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Holy Schmidt!!!
I want one of these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgiafRgv3YU&app=desktop
OMGoodness!!!! Decisions Decisions Decisions! Another bandwagon to jump on. Woo Hoo! :eek:
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On the other hand it could also work against them by giving the competition time to come out with competing products. ;)
WK;
You must be prophetic! Looks like the competition is encroaching.
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On the other hand it could also work against them by giving the competition time to come out with competing products. ;)
WK;
You must be prophetic! Looks like the competition is encroaching.
Yup isn't that what I said above that A&H had nowhere else to go but a rack version. I've yet to see a price or delivery before Be.. introduces the second generation of their X32 rack. In less than a day we'll see all the new and interesting ideas. My spies put in for overtime pay ;).
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One ups-man-ship is in full swing. Behringer second generation of X32 line the SD series is shown. Now a solution for the X32 core and of course the rest of the line.
http://www.behringer.com/EN/products/SD16.aspx
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/S32.aspx
http://www.behringer.com/EN/products/SD8.aspx
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Midas not to be outdone just about has all of the X32 line cloned or Bentley cloaked. Just need that X32R in the lot. :) There seems to be a big push on the Ultranet P series monitors systems going on.
http://www.midasconsoles.com/Catalog/MIDAS_M32C-P0BM8_Product-Information-Document.pdf
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Mackie other than promises has NOTHING. I guess NAMM is not for them.
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Mackie other than promises has NOTHING. I guess NAMM is not for them.
What do you mean?? They announced this WONDERFUL device: http://freeplay.mackie.com
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They announced this WONDERFUL device: http://freeplay.mackie.com
Did you notice that the very "My Fader"-like app for it is "Coming Soon" LOL.
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Mackie other than promises has NOTHING. I guess NAMM is not for them.
What do you mean?? They announced this WONDERFUL device: http://freeplay.mackie.com
I did but wasn't even gonna go there a boombox how exiting. ::) Must be an up and coming trend
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Soundcraft on the other hand announced a HTML based series mixer Ui12 and Ui16 possibly 24 soon. http://www.soundcraft.com/
This may liven things up a bit.
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Soundcraft on the other hand announced a HTML based series mixer Ui12 and Ui16 possibly 24 soon. http://www.soundcraft.com/
This may liven things up a bit.
Appears that Soundcraft rebadged the SMPro U-Mix series and included the to be expected DBX, Lexicon and BSS processing. Though no mention of Soundcraft mic pre implementation.
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Soundcraft on the other hand announced a HTML based series mixer Ui12 and Ui16 possibly 24 soon. http://www.soundcraft.com/
This may liven things up a bit.
Appears that Soundcraft rebadged the SMPro U-Mix series and included the to be expected DBX, Lexicon and BSS processing. Though no mention of Soundcraft mic pre implementation.
Maybe just another Harman acquisition. Seems they're in the buying mood again.
Sure enough here are the details.
http://www.audiomediainternational.com/business/harman-reveals-sm-pro-audio-acquisition/04061
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That's what they say. Mine's on the shelf at the moment, waiting for the update to fix the pretty much completely nonfunctional WIFI. Ad-hoc only? Are you fucking kidding me?
The update is supposed to implement full networking functionality, including USB-ethernet dongles. We'll see. Then they can start working on everything else that they screwed up. I'm really disappointed. I get that they wanted to start fresh, but they completely ignored over a decade of the stuff other people figured out correctly. It's mostly fixable. I don't get a warm fuzzy feeling from them in the forum, though. "Your DAW can't handle our 32 bit files which all have the same name? Fix it yourself."
As promised Jan. 20 V2.x hopefully fixes all those problems. Time to dust off the Touchmix and hope for the best. :)
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I don't think there are the product announcements this year that got us going when the likes of x ( insert whatever number you like) was announced,
Must be great doing big gigs with lots of people and it seems many of the products are still geared for that, , I suppose they might pacify the low count users with a speaker inspired by the toy story franchise, or not.
:)