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Title: Plosives on live vocals
Post by: K-Dubber on August 01, 2015, 10:21:45 AM
So i've been noticing some plosives from the lead singer in my band. He's using an sm58. Should we be looking for a mic upgrade to something with a better internal pop shield, or is there something within MF I can try? Maybe using a gate in some way?
Title: Re: Plosives on live vocals
Post by: ijpengelly on August 01, 2015, 01:37:18 PM
What have you set your High Pass Filter to?
Title: Re: Plosives on live vocals
Post by: K-Dubber on August 01, 2015, 02:03:44 PM
Hiya, thanks for the reply. It's set to 50hz at the mo.
Title: Re: Plosives on live vocals
Post by: ijpengelly on August 01, 2015, 05:43:31 PM
Take it up to around 100Hz, that's fairly standard for vocals and guitars and you should get less issues.
Title: Re: Plosives on live vocals
Post by: Wynnd on August 01, 2015, 05:57:37 PM
Unless they're a bass vocalist, you can probably set it as high as 125 htz safely. 
Title: Re: Plosives on live vocals
Post by: K-Dubber on August 01, 2015, 07:35:38 PM
Awesome, thanks guys! Will try setting it higher for the next gig.
Title: Re: Plosives on live vocals
Post by: dpdan on August 01, 2015, 08:07:28 PM
this is the biggest reason why I detest Shure 57 and 58 mics,   
Title: Re: Plosives on live vocals
Post by: Wynnd on August 02, 2015, 02:27:56 AM
They're not the cream of my stock, but I find them very useful for a lot of stuff. 
Title: Re: Plosives on live vocals
Post by: K-Dubber on August 02, 2015, 06:41:19 AM
What do you guys prefer instead of a 58?
Title: Re: Plosives on live vocals
Post by: ijpengelly on August 02, 2015, 07:40:50 AM
Rode M2 or Sennheiser 845s.
Title: Re: Plosives on live vocals
Post by: dpdan on August 02, 2015, 07:56:23 AM
AKG C535EB
Title: Re: Plosives on live vocals
Post by: K-Dubber on August 02, 2015, 09:05:36 AM
And do you mind me asking why you prefer these?
Title: Re: Plosives on live vocals
Post by: pytchley on August 02, 2015, 09:57:54 AM
this is the biggest reason why I detest Shure 57 and 58 mics,   

Obviously, that's why 95% of shows use them. Clearly Roger Daltry, Bono and many other great artists know nothing about live singing.
Try working on your vocalist's mic technique. Holding the mic a little higher and maybe a little further away can work wonders. If the plosive is there any decent mic is going to pick it up. Use your EQ....
Title: Re: Plosives on live vocals
Post by: ijpengelly on August 02, 2015, 05:53:15 PM
I don't have a particular issues with the Shures, the Rodes have a tighter pattern, better feedback control and more clarity in my experience. The Sennheisers are better for users who don't have great vocal technical, but they still provide some of the benefits of the Rode M2.
Title: Re: Plosives on live vocals
Post by: K-Dubber on August 02, 2015, 06:15:09 PM
Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Plosives on live vocals
Post by: Rdmitch on August 02, 2015, 07:32:44 PM
I have both the shures and sennheisers. I tend to go with the 58's usually out of habit.
I will have to give the 845's another try