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Title: NAMM 2016
Post by: WK154 on December 27, 2015, 02:25:13 AM
With just 25 days left till showtime it's been a deafening silence from Mackie regarding anything new. Beno are you just going there to be present with a 3.5 year old mixer line (4 yrs. if you count announcement) or is there something more. Boom boxes don't count.
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: Keyboard Magic on December 28, 2015, 01:29:20 AM
Maybe they’ll spring a re-imagined DL1608 on us unannounced? Just like MF 4, which was a nice surprise. Or MF 4 for Android, Mac and Windows would be cool too.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: WK154 on December 28, 2015, 03:49:12 AM
Maybe they'll just pull 16 pres from the DL32R and call it a DL16R.  ;D Seems we've been there before.
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: Wynnd on December 28, 2015, 04:39:51 AM
I can see either being a good thing. 

Unrelated - Anyone know where Mackie is writing Master Fader?  Had a conversation that had one saying India and another saying USA.  There's no bet on this, but I'm curious.  Mackie's tie to Apple products makes California seem likely to me.  (What do I know?)
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: WK154 on December 28, 2015, 04:38:31 PM
With the following event from a major supplier are we going to see a replacement of the DL806? Possibly a rack mount version or stage box like B...?


"Sorry, the Mackie DL806 is no longer available. We've left this page up for reference only. Check out the great alternatives on this page or call toll-free (800) 222-4700 to speak with a Sweetwater Sales Engineer about similar products."

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DL806
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: sam.spoons on December 28, 2015, 05:13:14 PM
I suspect the 806 was a commercial failure (too little too late and fro too much money.). Still love my 1608 though, of casual users (to whom I sometimes pass the iPad when I'm playing) it's a doodle to use.
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: DigtheDL on December 28, 2015, 09:21:49 PM
I think the note on the DL806 was for the 30 pin model.  The Lightning version is still available although backordered.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DL806L
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: WK154 on December 29, 2015, 01:10:34 AM
Yes after calling Sweetwater on this I got the skinny that it may only be the 30 pin version. Too bad since it should never have been released in the first place.  ;D Yes they are on back-order.
Rumor has it that some MFG's are introducing new mixers but no-one is willing to pre-announce this year.
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: Rdmitch on December 29, 2015, 11:25:10 PM
DL806 is no longer in the Musicians Friend catalog
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: Keyboard Magic on December 30, 2015, 12:29:33 AM
Long & McQuade here in Canada are only stocking the DL32, no more 806's or 1608's. Hmm... I think you can still order a 1608 Lighting, though, maybe? Should call them and inquire, just for interest sake.  :angel:
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: sam.spoons on December 30, 2015, 03:27:57 PM
I'd say it makes sense to drop the 806 but the 1608 is still a very useful bit of kit. Interesting to see what they announce at NAMM
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: Rdmitch on December 30, 2015, 04:38:27 PM
I would agree with Sam, the small difference in the lower price for the 806  is not attractive enough to sacrifice 8 channels for.  From a marketing standpoint I don't see the value in retaining it in the lineup.
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: sam.spoons on December 30, 2015, 05:40:30 PM
in Europe the 806 is well under half the price of the 1608 (£326 against £725 for the lightning versions) so it still offers a lot for the money if it has enough inputs but I guess not may who only need 8 inputs need all the other bells and whistles too so, for them, a small analogue desk is probably the way to go.
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: WK154 on December 30, 2015, 06:39:50 PM
As usual SAM the pricing structure between the US and UK make little sense. The XR16 the DL806 counterpart goes for $399 here. Thomann wants £412 for what at today's rate should be £269 (£143 more) go figure. So in Europe the Mackie is less expensive at £326. In the US it's $100 (£67) more than the XR16.

P.S. Could also be that Europe hasn't received the latest price cuts from Behringer.
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: sam.spoons on December 30, 2015, 07:02:54 PM
As usual SAM the pricing structure between the US and UK make little sense. The XR16 the DL806 counterpart goes for $399 here. Thomann wants £412 for what at today's rate should be £269 (£143 more) go figure. So in Europe the Mackie is less expensive at £326. In the US it's $100 (£67) more than the XR16.

Yup, was it ever thus...... At least you usually are on the winning end of the deal in the US  :(
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: WK154 on January 03, 2016, 05:06:33 PM
Back to NAMM with all that deafening silence NO one has taken advantage of a great advertising opportunity. Then again who said marketing types were smart.  :)
18 days left for this opportunity!
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: dpdan on January 03, 2016, 07:17:47 PM
NAMM is when manufacturers announce their new products.
Announcing anything before NAMM eliminates the need for the NAMM winter show.
The manufacturers want as many industry leaders and buyers to see their new products for the new year which is why the winter NAMM show has been so succesful.

Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: WK154 on January 03, 2016, 09:58:00 PM
You're a little confused and apparently have little prior knowledge of the show. The reason for the show is not to announce but to actually show their wares and make contact with their buyers. Pre-announcements will give more people incentive to attend on products of interest to them. There are also many more reasons to go there which have nothing to do with announcements. Attendance is the number one reason for the organizers who would love to see it above 100,000. Yes some manufacturers will use it as a platform for product introduction. Registration will close on the 7th.
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: dpdan on January 03, 2016, 11:47:02 PM
incorrect again, I am not confused.
I am very aware of what NAMM is for, I have been there many many times.

sarcasm from you again,

 
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: Wynnd on January 04, 2016, 01:37:54 AM
I've never been to NAMM.  Where and when?
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: workingstiff on January 05, 2016, 02:31:07 PM
Running fine on my iPad 2. As someone else mentioned, boot time is a little longer but sync time seems snappier. It's problem free on my iPhone 6 as well.
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: dpdan on January 05, 2016, 06:33:46 PM
I've never been to NAMM.  Where and when?

https://www.namm.org
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: WK154 on January 22, 2016, 12:06:11 AM
Well here is the Mackie ProDX series of mixers.  http://mackie.com/products/prodx-series
What a disappointment and pricing not really competitive. Seems like they gave up on competing with the mainstream small format mixers or is this just to cover the bottom end?
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: gerenm63 on January 22, 2016, 12:35:12 AM
Well here is the Mackie ProDX series of mixers.  http://mackie.com/products/prodx-series
What a disappointment and pricing not really competitive. Seems like they gave up on competing with the mainstream small format mixers or is this just to cover the bottom end?

They actually look perfect for singer/songwriters or duos to mix from the stage, or for a sub-mix/monitor setup for a keyboardist. Street pricing is $200 or $400, it seems, for the ProDX4 and ProDX8 respectively, which isn't too terrible.

The more interesting thing to me is that the app is available for Android.... Hmmm....
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: Keyboard Magic on January 22, 2016, 01:42:12 AM
Could they be the new digtal Blue Tooth wireless versions of the analog VLZ4 Series mixers, maybe?  :)
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: WK154 on January 24, 2016, 06:27:26 PM
I think that Mackie is focusing on the novice musicians for their digital line. Keep it simple seems to be their niche market. The Bluetooth isn't worth much , it's a class III device with no real range at 30 ft (10 meters). Once they publish the manual we'll see the real capabilities. A new preamp modeled after the X32 Midas is advertised as Wide-Z(TM). Has anyone heard it?
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: Keyboard Magic on January 29, 2016, 03:29:25 PM
Unless I’ve missed the boat (it's already sailed in my case!) on NAMM releases, in particular Mackie. It doesn’t appear that there was a re-imagined DL1608 to come out of there and hit the retail market. All except for the PRO DX Series. 

I won’t go into details since this was already discussed under my “Sign of things to come” post already.  ;)

Maybe Mackie is keeping it as a surprise for when we least expect it?  :-X
Title: Re: NAMM 2016
Post by: WK154 on January 29, 2016, 05:03:32 PM
Maybe Music Messe or next years NAMM, maybe never. What was also quite mysterious was Music Group's very low key presence. No Synth no new mixers etc. Is Uli following Greg Mackie's mistakes?