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X18, has the true DL killer finally arrived?

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Greg C.:
There was a BoobTube posting at NAMM of the Midinger rep from Germany saying it would be available "later this year." We shall see...

Jerrylee:
I posted the link here where he says September/October.

Jerrylee:

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--- Quote from: Greg C. on January 28, 2014, 05:02:21 PM ---Feature wise, the X18 is everything the DL should have been. I wonder when they're going to ship that thing. Technically it's already 2 years behind schedule since it was originally the X16 and then the iX16. Tick tock...

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Don't pass out holding your breath ;) . And everyone should realize how fast technology is evolving - the DL1608 was the best they could do at the time to have a product they could actually ship. It's easy to outdo it with a vaporware product LOL - and I'd certainly expect a product that starts shipping this summer/fall two long years after the DL1608 to be more advanced. OTOH Mackie has a lot they can do to the DL1608 to keep it competitive with 2-4 firmware updates a year :) .

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What exactly can Mackie do to keep competitive with the x18? Can they add programable mic pre's? No. Can they add a USB 18/18 interface? No. Can they add built in wifi? No. Can they add ultranet? No. Add two channels? No. Built in power supply? No. MIDI I/O. No. 2 more effects engines and 100 band rta? Probably not. Etc...

They will have to drop the price. That's being competitive. For the lack in features it will have to drop below the $799 price point of behringer.

I am not knocking Mackie for this. It's simply an issue of the evolving digital world. The digital boards are computers. When a computer comes out they are state of the art and possibly revolutionary. But they are constantly being replaced by new technology. When you walk out of a store with a computer it is already being outdated. The smart companies make their products upgradable but hardware has it's limitations.

Think about this. The dl was revolutionary in my opinion. But even during the development process it was already outdated. They developed the dock based on 30 pin and before multi tracking to the iPad was possible. This changed long before the dl was released. This was a big mistake. 

RoadRanger:

--- Quote from: Jerrylee on January 28, 2014, 07:30:43 PM ---What exactly can Mackie do to keep competitive with the x18? Can they add programable mic pre's? No.
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No :(
--- Quote ---Can they add a USB 18/18 interface? No.
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If they can get multichannel recording working to the iPad that would make them competitive IMO
--- Quote --- Can they add built in wifi? No.
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The competition doesn't have it either ;)
--- Quote ---Can they add ultranet? No. Add two channels? No. Built in power supply? No. MIDI I/O. No.
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I think all that is relatively unimportant, YMMV.
--- Quote --- 2 more effects engines and 100 band rta? Probably not.
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I'm actually pretty sure they could, or at least 31 band RTA to show you which band to pull down when you have feedback. At the very least I hope they soon allow the delay FX to be switched to a second 'verb.

Greg C.:
Midinger announced that the X18 has a built in WiFi router. So no external device needed to add that functionality.

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