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Unofficial Mackie User Forums => DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers => Topic started by: SGravy on June 03, 2016, 08:57:43 AM

Title: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: SGravy on June 03, 2016, 08:57:43 AM
I'm using an airport express as my wifi router.

At the moment it's a dynamic IP address. What's the advantages of chnging to a static address? How do you guys set up your router?

Thanks
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: stevegarris on June 03, 2016, 04:08:19 PM
After doing some reading and forum searching on the subject, I left mine Dynamic. It is hidden as well. Get the AE up high if there are a lot of cell phones or people in the crowd.
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: Michael Welter on June 04, 2016, 02:58:23 PM
I use dynamic, and I've never had a problem with it. I use the Airport Express for most gig, and add an AirPort Extreme for larger shows, to extend the range.
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: pytchley on June 04, 2016, 04:22:34 PM
Michael, how do you set that up? I have two expresses, maybe I can do the same?
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: Michael Welter on June 04, 2016, 08:00:46 PM
Connect your iPad to the router that will be used for the extension. Then go into the Airport Utility app. In thre, you'll find a setting that you can use to extend a network. Select the primary router. Done. It's really easy.
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: stevegarris on June 05, 2016, 07:13:18 PM
Connect your iPad to the router that will be used for the extension. Then go into the Airport Utility app. In thre, you'll find a setting that you can use to extend a network. Select the primary router. Done. It's really easy.

What do you mean by extension?
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: Peebo on June 05, 2016, 07:28:24 PM
The extension (2nd router) will give you extended range so you can be further away from the mixer and not lose signal. Great for outdoor gigs or really huge rooms.
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: Michael Welter on June 05, 2016, 10:51:32 PM
Let's say you're doing sound for a large arena. You put your DL on stage, with Airport Exress A attached directly to it. You put Airport Express B at the back of the room, at the FOH location. Airport Express B is connected to Airport Express A, as an extension. You can now wander around the entire arena, and mix from anywhere within.
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: Keyboard Magic on June 05, 2016, 11:56:03 PM
Thanks Michael!!!  :thu: :thu:

I was wondering how to do that myself for some venues too! Although for the school I've been doing I have no problems with my one and only AirPort Express. This info is nice to keep in my tool box for a rainy day. Of course if there are too many active cell phones at a big concert dual AE's might be a big boost.  8)
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: WK154 on June 06, 2016, 01:41:11 AM
KM how is one more additional AE going to help traffic problems it only adds to them and then there is the delay.
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: Keyboard Magic on June 06, 2016, 03:13:09 PM
I honestly don't know. And how is it working for Michael? I don't have any issues at all with one AE. Can't really afford to have a second one right now anyway.  ;)
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: Michael Welter on June 06, 2016, 10:30:28 PM
I haven't had any issues with cell phones, or any other wireless devices. I've used the dual-router configuration in a 9000 seat arena, and have been able to go anywhere in the arena and mix, even from the highest loge.  I have 2 Airport Express routers, so I always have a backup. And I have 1 Airport Extreme, that I use for the extension.
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: Keyboard Magic on June 06, 2016, 10:47:10 PM
Sorry Michael,

My question was directed at WK. I guess if another AE adds to traffic congestion, have you had any issues with that? Obviously from your last post everything is working just fine for you with dual AE's. And that's good to hear. I'm rather a bit of a noob when it comes to networking.  :facepalm:

Thank you for clarifying that for me!  :thu:
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: Michael Welter on June 06, 2016, 10:53:55 PM
Well, I'm a bit of a noob, too. But I had read that it was possible, and I emailed Mackie Tech support about it, and they recommended it for larger venues. I also found that it was really simple to set up using the Airport Utility app. I only do this for large venues like the 9000 seat arena. for most venues, I just use a single Airport Express.
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: dpdan on June 07, 2016, 12:56:47 AM
I do the same thing as Michael,
I have two Airport Express routers, (one as a backup but NEVER needed it) now I will :)

Simply place the Airport Extreme router somewhere where it won't walk off, and still in range of the Express and it get's the WiFi signal from the Airport Express which is connected via the ethernet connection on the back of the DL32R.

The Extreme then provides significantly improved range.

Like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy9IcuN_aNI
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: WK154 on June 07, 2016, 05:16:51 AM
If you have both an extreme and an express I would hook the extreme to the mixer (wired) it will give you a wired connection (iPad) if things go awry with Wifi.
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: dpdan on June 07, 2016, 09:00:39 AM
WK, I'm all ears,,,
I have never needed a wired connection, but if I did, are you saying as long as the DL is connected via ethernet like usual, that the iPad could be connected to the USB port and communicate?
I don't understand how the Extreme would be any different than the Express for a wired connection, because both have a USB2 port.

Dan

 
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: Michael Welter on June 07, 2016, 11:15:24 AM
The reason I connect the Express to the DL is so I can use AirPlay.
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: WK154 on June 07, 2016, 03:37:05 PM
WK, I'm all ears,,,
I have never needed a wired connection, but if I did, are you saying as long as the DL is connected via ethernet like usual, that the iPad could be connected to the USB port and communicate?
I don't understand how the Extreme would be any different than the Express for a wired connection, because both have a USB2 port.

Dan
Not on the express USB port it's quite limited in what it supports. I think only printers and memory sticks. I don't have any Apple routers to check this out however. You would need the new powered USB lightning adapter for the DL32.  To clarify you go thru the lightning to USB to a Ethernet dongle to the extreme via it's wired ports. See this for more info.
http://cacophony.aspinock.com/index.php?topic=1178.0
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: stevegarris on June 07, 2016, 04:28:33 PM
I do the same thing as Michael,
I have two Airport Express routers, (one as a backup but NEVER needed it) now I will :)

Simply place the Airport Extreme router somewhere where it won't walk off, and still in range of the Express and it get's the WiFi signal from the Airport Express which is connected via the ethernet connection on the back of the DL32R.

The Extreme then provides significantly improved range.

Like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy9IcuN_aNI

Very nice! Is that a VRX system? From the recording I think is sounds great.
Title: Re: Static V Dynamic IP Address
Post by: dpdan on June 07, 2016, 10:41:05 PM
thanks WK!

Steve it is JBL mains, but most of what you are hearing in this video is a mix from the Mackie's USB to multi-track in Digital Performer.

Dan