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DL32R vs X32Rack
James91104:
--- Quote from: robbocurry on October 16, 2014, 06:09:53 AM ---To the previous posters:
There will be computer control of the DL32r, that's what the usb b is for on the back - output 32x32 didn't Beno say?
"If the iPad dies" surely you'll have even an iPhone handy? What if the x32 rack dies (more likely scenario) what then?
The multi recording to an onboard HDD is the x32 rack killer alone for me.
Plus it doesn't need the three year warranty gimmick to try and get people to trust it's manufacturer.
It looks solid and workmanlike. The new MF looks great.
In the real world I would have much more confidence in the dl32r than I'd ever have in an x32 rack.
My previous experiences with Behringer have been bad, Presonus more favourable.
My one and only Mackie purchase has been superb - the DL1608.
If it comes down just to the price, of course it's not going to be as cheap as a Behringer.
Yeah, I could get "x" number of x32 racks for the price of my current setup but I be happier with buying something I trusted.
What use 8FX engines when it won't power up some night, at a gig, in the middle of nowhere, within the 3 year warranty?
Just my 2p worth :)
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Well, depending on if you have yourself one `dem `der real old 2pencers you might have something of real value.
But when it comes to the topic at hand, in the real world poop happens. Such is reason for redundancy or back-up plans. Redundant Pads, Lappies, Routers, Wall-Warts, Cabling, DSP Wundaboxes, Powered FOH speaker are all at the ready for the unexpected , RIGHT ?
Besides, as stated, one can emergency mix from the X-Rack panel. Try that on the M or P.
Computer control and 32x32 recording, when? And will it be proprietary ala QSC Touchmix.
Personally I don`t perk up just cause `Beno' speaks. Ask yourself, how many on the payroll Mackoids other than Beno chime or check in to this or any other forum.
Warranty? 7 years on my Yamaha DSR`s and 6 years on QSC`s IMO translates to confidence for the consumer. Behr..... and Pres.... warranty and out of warranty service is in house one shop stop resulting in what I interpret as knowledge,experience and concern for quality control in service . Mackie is different as I have found due to my DEAD DL1608. Mackie DL out of warranty products go to New Jersey, while under warranty head up to Woodinville presumably just swapped out. What might that tell you I ask?
MF is wonderful. I have acknowledged in another thread the stand out allure and simplicity of MF and would very well understand anyone`s decision based on the UI. Very similar to the long lived by adage borne out of the very early days of consumer computer digital audio software. Choose the software and the platform will follow.
8,4, or 2 effects. The X has the real deal and I am willing to put your 2Pence to my nickel that that nothing much has improved in the DL32R/ MF 3. That is a deal killer for me.
Natural human reaction for many peeps, once bitten , twice shy.
Ok, I will ask. What is your setup?
robbocurry:
Hey James,
My 2p's are just the regular ones in circulation here in the UK. ;)
I can see the points you are making, they will make X series buyers feel all warm and fuzzy.
Redundancy, backups and warranties are all great when you have them. Behr**ger gear has a hard earned reputation for being cheap and unreliable.
Because they're so cheap, lots have been sold, therefore lots of voices on the net are justifying their purchases - just like you. I'm not buying the hype ;)
My story is a familiar one, bought cheap Beh***ger gear out of necessity and budget over the years, and got what I deserved.
I'm not particularly wealthy but I would rather put my money in trusted brands, my main digital desk is an A&H. I'm very happy with my DL too.
I don't get a cold sweat every time I hit the power button on it or my DL1608. Perhaps for you, it's the opposite, since you had a "dead" DL1608.
No matter how good the x-range might seem to some people it doesn't shine to me.
I personally know of a very popular act here who has two x32 consoles 'cause one died mid gig.
I can't see the logic in that, I'd have bought something else at the earliest opportunity!
We'll all see different merits in our choices but I hope your new x32 rack goes well for you James.
sam.spoons:
I have done a huge amount of reading about the X32 over the last year and I can count the "X32 failed" posts on the fingers of one hand compared to literally hundreds of post saying what a great desk it is. There are probably more X32s sold than all other digital desks put together (likely ten times more) yet the failure rate on my 'internet straw poll' is little different from other manufacturers products. If I could afford a GLD and stagebox I would buy one like a shot (I use one at work) but I can't so an X32 Compact is on the way. I will take a backup desk to gigs with me but I would if I had a GLD or Expression (or Digico etc TBH) 'cos stuff fails. It doesn't matter if the failure rate is 10% or .01%, if yours is the .01% one that goes TTU you still need a backup.
Fortunately I'm not in the position of having to pander to the badge obsessed classes and my clients aren't expecting me to turn up with an LS9 or Midas or WHY (Digico on a rider for a pub gig anyone?).
robbocurry:
Hey Sam,
My straw poll doesn't bode well lol!
I only know one real life x32 owner and his failed mid gig.
Horses for courses.
sam.spoons:
He was the .01%er :lol:
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