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Title: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: fazmanicg on September 25, 2013, 08:55:22 PM
I have to say ..... They Listened!  Some really great changes and additions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOG4-J3qQY0

They also have new "Lightning Connector" Versions of the mixers, with iPad mini Brackets ... o


Looking forward to the update!
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: sam.spoons on September 25, 2013, 09:10:07 PM
MF V2 looks great, most of the important stuff is there (no assignable fx sadly). And as MF has a decent record for stability things should be looking good for the DL (not that I was planning to replace mine either way)  8)
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: CyberHippy on September 25, 2013, 10:33:47 PM
Oh man I hope they get this out to the store before this weekend, I'm doing the tweener-stage at a festival and could use just about every new function they showed in that video!

Here's the page with the new functions: http://www.mackie.com/enews/products/2013/09/mackie-announces-master-fader-v2-0-tons-of-new-features-coming-soon/ - I see Sam has been there already...
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: WK154 on September 26, 2013, 06:32:55 AM
Deja Vu  "Coming Soon" takes us back not too far V1.4! The list with the 10 most wanted (by votes) gets a 50% coverage, not bad I expected 20% for V1.5 but then this is V2.0.
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: ijpengelly on September 26, 2013, 06:43:46 AM
I did wonder about how long from announcement to launch as well WK, hopefully they learned their lesson (glass half full) from last time and are going to be slightly better at managing our expectations. I really like what they have done, though I think they still missed a trick by not having the EFX mutes at the top of the screen in the dead area. Still, loads of good stuff to play with here.
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: robbocurry on September 26, 2013, 09:10:19 AM
A lot of useful improvements, shame no iPad "pad" though!
Definitely a step in the right direction and kudos to Mackie.
Please let the "lightning" upgrade kit be user installable here in the uk, rather than a send to service job:/
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: sam.spoons on September 26, 2013, 11:52:04 AM
I don't see any reason why the lightening upgrade should be a service only part in the UK as it's available for self installing in the US. I don't need it yet as both my iPads have the 30 pin connector
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: thedrums on September 26, 2013, 05:55:28 PM
The lightning connector will be user serviceable. They have the instructions listed on the Mackie site already.
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: WK154 on September 26, 2013, 06:32:42 PM
Based on their preliminary docs we now have a stereo/mono channel mixer on inputs and outputs. The devil is in the details once released. The concept of groups is introduced but somewhat incomplete. You can mute (on/off) four group of selected channels and you can display same but there is no control (DCA or subgroup). I guess that's for V3.0 of MF. Lacking altogether is any assistance for setup (RTA or parametrics on outputs). No hint of any compatibility with other programs (DL as a input device to other apps other than stereo in/out).
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: AbbaAgain on September 27, 2013, 03:22:48 AM
With the new release the ipad channel can be split L/R, hopefully this may, at a later date be open to the FX channel. If this is the case the 2  stereo FX channels may be changed to 4 mono channels. This hopefully could add extra FX like chours. Although I welcome MF2, I await 2.1 or what ever Mackie wish to call it with great anticipation....
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: Jerrylee on September 27, 2013, 03:41:14 AM
Most of the additions made to 2.0 are control surface based. Adding real big improvements like parametric eqs and adding effects are processor based and much more difficult to implement. But a big kudos to Mackie for the additional control based additions. They will be very useful until I get my x32 rack. These improvements are making the dl look a lot better but there are things the behringer will do that unfortunately the dl will never be capable of. But, if we stick to robos theory of things, 2.0 is vaporware.
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: diggo on September 28, 2013, 05:24:28 AM
With the new release the ipad channel can be split L/R, hopefully this may, at a later date be open to the FX channel. If this is the case the 2  stereo FX channels may be changed to 4 mono channels.

From the getgo the DL1680 should have had a "Mono Mode" preference which automagically configures the mixer config to allow maximum I/O efficiency and DSP allocation for mono PA systems.
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: robbocurry on September 29, 2013, 10:55:25 AM
Most of the additions made to 2.0 are control surface based. Adding real big improvements like parametric eqs and adding effects are processor based and much more difficult to implement. But a big kudos to Mackie for the additional control based additions. They will be very useful until I get my x32 rack. These improvements are making the dl look a lot better but there are things the behringer will do that unfortunately the dl will never be capable of. But, if we stick to robos theory of things, 2.0 is vaporware.

Lolz, you're still waiting on that rack?
You're well past the "in four months time" threshold now!
Btw, v2.0 definitely exists.......;)
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: Harpman on September 29, 2013, 04:00:59 PM
I don't see any reason why the lightening upgrade should be a service only part in the UK as it's available for self installing in the US. I don't need it yet as both my iPads have the 30 pin connector

Same here Sam. I have one of each.  The iPad 3 is always docked and the iPad 4 (Retina) I roam the house with.
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: Harpman on September 29, 2013, 04:21:03 PM
Most of the additions made to 2.0 are control surface based. Adding real big improvements like parametric eqs and adding effects are processor based and much more difficult to implement. But a big kudos to Mackie for the additional control based additions. They will be very useful until I get my x32 rack. These improvements are making the dl look a lot better but there are things the behringer will do that unfortunately the dl will never be capable of. But, if we stick to robos theory of things, 2.0 is vaporware.

Jerry, don't get me wrong here because I came from the Behringer camp. I couldn't wait any longer for the X32 console and gave up in lieu of the DL1608. For those of you moving to the x32, there is definitely a steeper learning curve as compared to the DL. And yes, more features of course. So tired of company's that over commit and under deliver.  That's the way the world turns I guess.  I just wish that companies can be more realistic on their commitments to deliver a product, whether hardware or software and not having people like you and me waiting on baited breath. I have to learn not to get all caught up in the sales and marketing hype and be patient  :)
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: WK154 on October 01, 2013, 06:54:51 AM
Gio: On Facebook you're hoping for a release of V2.0 in a week or so. Mackie replied that they are testing not teasing, Yeah! My take on this new farce is that they will wait for Behringer to announce iX16 is shipping before they release. Someone else on another forum had the nerve to call Mackie tech support and asked if they completed the testing V1.4.3 for iOS7, the answer was we're still testing. To top it all of Apple released an update to V7 already! No wonder I'm still on iOS 6.1 and V1.41 cause it works for what I do.
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: Wynnd on October 01, 2013, 12:07:27 PM
The ios 7 update was to close the security sneak around.  That had to be addressed immediately.  As far as Master Fader and My Fader on ios 7, no problems found here yet.  I've only been using my mixer for the last two weeks and still stumble about on it.  (Probably not taking full advantage of it yet though I rarely have more than a few unused channels.) 
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: AbbaAgain on October 01, 2013, 08:58:57 PM
Just seen on the Mackie Facebook page that they are still making decisions about the 'quick access panel'. If that's the case then I wouldn't hold your breath for a release this week. I am looking forward to MF2 and I don't want to rush 'em, but I would  rather them be a bit more transparent with us about what's going on and realistic ETA's
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: WK154 on October 01, 2013, 09:32:24 PM
Nothing there that indicates preliminary view of access panel. I would have liked to see 6 DCA's (4 would do in a pinch) and a record group (single). That will have to be for V3.0 of MF.
Wynnd: you may want to believe that it was only a security fix but my experience tells me otherwise. Companies in general don't like to air their dirty linens in public. Security issues on the other hand usually get top billing and are easy to dismiss.
Title: Re: Mackie Announces and Demos Master Fader 2.0
Post by: Wynnd on October 02, 2013, 02:53:33 AM
The reason for thinking it was the security issue was the nearly immediate release of how to get past the ios lock when you don't know the passcode.  That knowledge was distributed quite quickly.  (And not fixing it right away would affect their sales.)