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The mackie DL1608 white noise saga continued..

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gerenm63:

--- Quote from: WK154 on October 27, 2014, 07:50:57 PM ---Your logic has more holes than my pasta strainer and you clearly don't understand the problem. You might want to read the whole thread and nothing but the thread so help yourself. :) As far as you speaking for the "rest of us" that's pretty presumptuous.

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I've read ALL of the related threads. I DO understand the problem. I also have DECADES of troubleshooting experience with both analog and digital audio as well as analog and digital video systems, and continue to work DAILY with such systems. You simply refuse to believe this could be anything but Mackie's problem. Guess what. It's possible that you are wrong.

It's also possible that I am wrong -- I'll freely admit that. But, we now have evidence of at least one iPad that had a consistent problem, and an update to its software has altered the results.

Keyboard Magic:

--- Quote from: gerenm63 on October 27, 2014, 07:32:47 PM ---

the rest of us will do the right thing, and 1) see what iBloke's longer test results are, and (2) update some iPads that are, in concert with their mated DLs, exhibiting the problem and see if it clears it up.

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Couldn't hurt to give it a go. Nothing to lose by trying. ;)

WK154:

--- Quote from: gerenm63 on October 27, 2014, 07:54:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: WK154 on October 27, 2014, 07:50:57 PM ---Your logic has more holes than my pasta strainer and you clearly don't understand the problem. You might want to read the whole thread and nothing but the thread so help yourself. :) As far as you speaking for the "rest of us" that's pretty presumptuous.

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I've read ALL of the related threads. I DO understand the problem. I also have DECADES of troubleshooting experience with both analog and digital audio as well as analog and digital video systems, and continue to work DAILY with such systems. You simply refuse to believe this could be anything but Mackie's problem. Guess what. It's possible that you are wrong.

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I guess it's in the definition of what is a Mackie problem and that according to your logic would make it the D/A manufacturer problem if that's what caused it, not Mackie's. ::) In that case I'm wrong.

WK154:

--- Quote from: Keyboard Magic on October 27, 2014, 08:08:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: gerenm63 on October 27, 2014, 07:32:47 PM ---

the rest of us will do the right thing, and 1) see what iBloke's longer test results are, and (2) update some iPads that are, in concert with their mated DLs, exhibiting the problem and see if it clears it up.

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Couldn't hurt to give it a go. Nothing to lose by trying. ;)

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Agreed or as Clint would say "make my day". Reminds me of a song by Garth "Blameless", was he singing about Mackie?

robbocurry:

--- Quote from: gerenm63 on October 27, 2014, 07:16:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: WK154 on October 27, 2014, 06:48:16 PM ---IIRC iBloke stated that in one of the tests during "white noise" he pulled the ipad from the dock and the noise continued. This would seem to eliminate the iPad altogether except for the possible initiator of it. Where does that leave the DL? No matter what the source it's a Mackie product ergo a Mackie problem. Apple is definitely not going to solve it.

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I can see where the iPad, for some reason, would through garbage at the D/A converters that would leave them in an ambiguous state. If the iPad is pulled out before good data is received, they could become "stuck" there. Might there be a way to error check that? Maybe. It all depends on the D/A converter.

As far as it being Mackie's problem and no one else's, that a load of crap. If you float the ground on an XLR cable, and that causes hum on your SSL board, is that an SSL problem? No, it's not.

If the singer spits into your SM58 one time to many and it gums up the transducer and the mic starts to sound more like crap than an SM58 usually sounds through the PA, is that the fault of the PA? No, it's not.

So, if the Apple product throws crap into the Mackie product, and it causes the Mackie product to react badly, it's not a Mackie problem, it's an Apple problem.

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+1 to that. This is a definite possibility IMHO.
Weren't there other manufacturers audio devices experiencing white noise problems too? I'm sure I read that in an earlier thread??

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