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Jumping into the DL1608 Phenomenon
Jerrylee:
Wynnd I again disagree. When you are going over certain aspects of an individual mixer it is nice to use headphones. You can hear how eqs react, effects sound, dynamics, etc. But when comparing two mixers for sound/tonal quality it would not mater what you are using to compare. It's best to "compare" two mixers by using the very pa you will be using them through. If the room is going to affect one mixer, it's going to affect the other as well. That's what I would want to hear. How my mixers, with my pa, sound in a room. And headphone amps vary greatly in mixers. They don't always compare to the main outs.
If I wanted to hear individual effects, and compare them, yes I might use headphones. But that's not the point. The point is to compare the mixers as a whole. Not just compare the effects. And they can still be compared through a pa.
Wynnd:
I would love to do a blind test of systems that are RTA flat. I'm betting nearly everyone won't be able to tell the difference. Now if your system isn't flat, you're comparing the systems and not the mixers. You will get a huge amount of variance on systems that aren't flat. That said, I do have one mixer that is mid range heavy. But it's the only one that I've had that was that way since 1990. (It's my recording mixer and I don't plan to change it. I can always clean things up in the mix down.) I'm doubting that the MixWiz and the DL sound noticeably different when set up exactly the same. (Channel EQs flat and no effects.) Blind test is really the only way to move beyond opinions and into truth. I'd be willing to volunteer my equipment, but I sold the MixWiz. (Still a very nice mixer.)
Keyboard Magic:
So to follow up on my most excellent DL1608 adventure :) I thought I'd try to set up my airport express router, (it is the newest version)to make sure I can use wireless for the upcoming gig Monday. ??? 2 hours later and pulling out what hair I have left, it decided to go from front LED flashing yellow to sold green = connected. Please don't ask how I was able to do that, but blind luck, a fluke or what every deity intervened, it's working 100% 8) Hip hip hurray, let the bells ring out, I can run my DL wirelessly from my second iPad and even stream audio in stereo via AirPlay from my windows laptop using iTunes. whoo hooo!!
Aside from my audio/music gigs, I am also a part time computer technician and have configured too many routers and wireless routers, but I've really haven't come up against something as stubborn as the Apple router :o. It is probably my ineptness with apple that caused all this frustration. But the Mackie quick wireless setup pdf assures one that set up is sooooo easy with any router and since I am using apple gear, it should be even easier? Guess not! My wish would be for Master Fader to somehow make connection painless. But in the real world that's a whole 'nother story!
Any way it's working and I for one am not going to mess with any settings to screw up my wireless. That's my rant and thank you all for listening. (well, reading actually) 8)
Jerrylee:
It took me a couple of minutes to get my express working when I got it. Not exactly sure what you did.
Scott Campbell:
I've found you have to be fairly precise on the order you turn systems on. If you just randomly plug stuff in and turn things on, it may take a while.
I tend to follow this pattern for best results:
1) connect everything ( all unpowered , except the Ipad)
2) power up the router and wait a bit ( sub 3 mins)
3) find the router on the ipad wifi settings (and connect)
4)power up the mixer
5) check (within MasterFader if the wired Ipad is connected)
6)remove the Ipad from the mixer, and check if it had synced to masterfader wirelessly
From there its usually pretty good.
I've used some Netgear voip router and also a Dlink battery operated thing (I'll check at some point on the exact models if anyone is interested)
I get plenty of drops/disconnects from the netgear thing, but the Dlink has been stable. Could be interference from the venues though, i haven't really tested it all out.
Bit of a pain if you set up your gear, power your mains, (with phantom on) then notice you can't get a wireless connection..... shut it all down, and start in the prescribed order.
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