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Unofficial Mackie User Forums => DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers => Topic started by: Keyboard Magic on February 23, 2015, 07:06:14 PM

Title: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: Keyboard Magic on February 23, 2015, 07:06:14 PM
I have to say that I still absolutely love this tech after all this time. It’s so wonderful to be able to have access to such cool gear that I setup and run wirelessly with all my iDevices. And anywhere in the venue!!  As I connect each device to the network, it joins flawlessly. So amazing indeed. I’m running with 2 iPads, the newer one is running MF 3.X wirelessly. I have the other iPad 2 playing audio tracks over AirPlay. So cool!

I am so lucky to have this tech available in this day and age. But in retrospect 10 years ago I was running a powered mixer and unpowered cabs, a 100 foot snake and thinking I was pretty lucky too, to be able to create good sound. I guess it’s all a matter of perspective. But these are great times even at any age.  The convenience alone is worth the price of admission in my books. Even after all the whining and complaining I've done on this site, I consider myself very lucky indeed, to be able to use stuff like this no matter what brand it is.  ;) 

Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: Wynnd on February 23, 2015, 09:24:51 PM
Are you glad the 100' snake is gone?   I am.  Hated putting it down and packing it up.  Now for outdoors, I just want someplace to put my ipad mini down and mix from out there.  (In the shade where I can still see the screen.)
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: Keyboard Magic on February 23, 2015, 09:51:02 PM
Are you glad the 100' snake is gone?   I am.  Hated putting it down and packing it up.  Now for outdoors, I just want someplace to put my ipad mini down and mix from out there.  (In the shade where I can still see the screen.)

I am glad the snake is gone and I have it stored somewhere. I haven't mixed outside yet with the iPads, but I do have one of those portable awnings to hide under. Although I think I won't mix outside until warmer weather though.  ;) I don't know how some musicians can play at winter venues though. My fingers ache at the thought.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: sam.spoons on February 23, 2015, 10:09:01 PM
Beware of the warmer weather, the first really sunny day I used the DL1608 outdoors both my iPads overheated and shut down while I was rigging the PA, 15 mins in the car with the aircon on full blast and blowing on them got them working again but keep you iPad in shade as much as possible if it's hot.
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: Wynnd on February 23, 2015, 10:44:24 PM
Agreed that hot days require a different approach.  I've had my iphone 4S overheat and shut off and I had one of my ZXA1 satellites quit for about 30 minutes due to overheating.  (Class D amp, no heatsink fins or fan.  Class D amps don't get very hot because they avoid the partial resisting mode on their output transistors.)  Shade is your friend.
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: sam.spoons on February 23, 2015, 11:02:19 PM
Agreed that hot days require a different approach.  I've had my iphone 4S overheat and shut off and I had one of my ZXA1 satellites quit for about 30 minutes due to overheating.  (Class D amp, no heatsink fins or fan.  Class D amps don't get very hot because they avoid the partial resisting mode on their output transistors.)  Shade
And beer
Quote
is your friend.
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: Keyboard Magic on February 24, 2015, 12:21:41 AM
Not worrying about the iPads (Yes I actually do), I'm a shade guy for sure.  ;) "Burn and Peel" is my middle name in the summer. To quote my better half, I do a good impression of a Lobster.  60 SPF Sunblock is my number.  :lol:
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: dpdan on February 24, 2015, 01:40:57 AM
for users of the DL1608 and DL808, I suggest not docking the iPad in hot conditions,
the DL running on extreme hot summer days, even in the shade and without an iPad charging in it's dock is creates enough heat to fry burgers.
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: Keyboard Magic on February 24, 2015, 02:12:18 AM
for users of the DL1608 and DL808, I suggest not docking the iPad in hot conditions,
the DL running on extreme hot summer days, even in the shade and without an iPad charging in it's dock is creates enough heat to fry burgers.

Good advice indeed! I've noticed that leaving my iPad docked all evening at normal room temp' leaves it quite warm to the touch when I remove it at the end of the gig. I can see it cooking on a hot summers day. What about a good sized laptop cooling pad placed underneath the DL? Power for the fans could come from a spare Apple 5 watt charger.
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: Wynnd on February 24, 2015, 02:18:29 AM
Beer?  Not when working for me.  (Personal attitude.)  On the other hand, I quit going without a shirt years ago after having 2nd degree sun burns on my back 3 times.  Now it's probably as much to be nice to other people as to protect my overweight hide.  (Fat folks should never wear speedos.)
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: pytchley on February 24, 2015, 10:35:55 AM
Beer?  Not when working for me.  (Personal attitude.)  On the other hand, I quit going without a shirt years ago after having 2nd degree sun burns on my back 3 times.  Now it's probably as much to be nice to other people as to protect my overweight hide.  (Fat folks should never wear speedos.)

Wynnd, you don't like loud music, you don't like putting anything in monitors, you don't like reverb, you don't approve of people griping about the shortcomings of their equipment, you don't expose huge areas of ugly flesh...all that I can handle but not liking beer!!!! I begin to doubt that you actually run sound. Maybe you really work for B********r and are actually here to demoralise us. :) :) :)
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: sam.spoons on February 24, 2015, 11:46:53 AM
He didn't say he didn't like beer, just that he didn't drink when working. I love beer but actually I don't drink when I'm working either, mainly 'cos most music venues serve cr*p beer and even if the sell good stuff I'm too busy to enjoy it. I have a fridge full of decent beer and drink when I get home  :thu:
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: Keyboard Magic on February 24, 2015, 02:39:29 PM
Never drink while on the gig. Played in one particular band for years that I always ended up being the “Designated Musician”, but keep me floating in ice cold Pepsi or Coke all night and I’m a happy camper. :laugh:
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: Wynnd on February 24, 2015, 02:46:00 PM
Don't think anyone has ever seen me complain about putting vocals in the monitors.  And yes, I do enjoy a beer from time to time.  Never more than one and I'm frequently splitting that with my Wife.  Never been drunk.  (Weird enough sober.  Don't want to find out what I'm like drunk.  Don't want anyone else to find out either.)   I suspect that my Son knew more about booze before he was 19 than I know today.  (He's 36 now.  I've never seen him drunk, but that could just be luck.)
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: pytchley on February 24, 2015, 02:58:42 PM
No Beer!
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: CyberHippy on February 24, 2015, 03:36:38 PM
I have the same rule- no booze while mixing, plenty of time for that after load-out.

Back to the original post, I had a performance over the weekend with a little jam-band I've been hanging with (this being slow-season for sound gigs) and it was wonderful to be able to run the whole show from the DL sitting next to my bass amp! Easy load-in, easy mixing and easy load-out (with a beer in my hand).

I prefer the Soundcraft Si boards for the bigger gigs, but the DL continues to be a gem and will always be on the truck as my "oh shit" mixer.
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: Kev tyler on February 24, 2015, 08:03:47 PM
I remember a DJ cum promoter who supplied DJ and gear for clubs, right along the where you guys put your scribble strips,

Big red writing in embossed dymo tape

BEER ON HERE END OF CAREER


I love a beer when I am singing with a pub band, it's allowed in most situations, but beer when I am suited and booted, no way.


Has to be a gin and tonic as it looks like water lol
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: stevegarris on February 24, 2015, 08:12:26 PM
When I get to the club to mix, the first words out of my mouth are "Does the bartender know I get free beer", followed by "where is it?".
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: Kev tyler on February 24, 2015, 08:24:34 PM
The bars here, well We used to get fed  and receive free beer and spirits from the 9pm soundcheck till about 4am when they closed, then some stupid installed computer monitoring devices and the bars realized they were giving the Gdp of a small country away, three beer limit now, damm you bill gates!

Anyway back at the ranch,  with relation to all these stage box type mixer gizmos that are intended for the floor, it just worries me, tech guys will need eyes in the back of their heads, musos will always have fluids on stage, beer or water spells disaster I think for the new range of on  the floor mixers.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: WK154 on February 24, 2015, 09:51:12 PM
Not to worry the Beer umbrella's are being worked on. :)  Needed for the sunny outdoor gigs as well.
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: Wynnd on February 25, 2015, 01:03:20 AM
I would think that unless you're an alcoholic, 3 beers ought to be more than enough for a night.  (Some people won't admit to be alcoholic, but 2 DWIs means you are an alcoholic for sure and considering that many people get away without a DWI for many drunk trips, you've been one for many months or years.)   Keep in mind that there are functional alcoholics out there.  (My Wife's Father was one.) 
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: Sir Krang on February 25, 2015, 05:40:31 AM
*neanderthal grunt* BEER. GOOD. *neanderthal grunt*

 :lol:
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: pytchley on February 25, 2015, 08:45:38 AM
*neanderthal grunt* BEER. GOOD. *neanderthal grunt*

 :lol:

I'll drink to that, in fact I can't drink properly without playing (or something like that). Wynnd, what's a DWI? Were you replying to Homer?
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: nottooloud on February 25, 2015, 04:59:53 PM
What about a good sized laptop cooling pad placed underneath the DL? Power for the fans could come from a spare Apple 5 watt charger.

I do that. It helps. Also, my iPads are all in decent cases, except on sunny gigs.
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: sam.spoons on February 25, 2015, 05:18:21 PM
*neanderthal grunt* BEER. GOOD. *neanderthal grunt*

 :lol:

I'll drink to that, in fact I can't drink properly without playing (or something like that). Wynnd, what's a DWI? Were you replying to Homer?

Driving While Impaired? I guess that's a US term for a drunk driving offence.
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: Wynnd on February 25, 2015, 07:31:03 PM
I should have said DUI.  I don't even know the fine for a DUI.  That is something that will never happen to me.
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: Rdmitch on February 25, 2015, 08:48:59 PM
I side with the no drinkers. Bad enough that there are a lot a crazies already on the road and no need for one more.  At the time most of us our heading home after load out, it's close to 2-3 AM and we are police magnets. I never have more than a single beer and usually won't even finish that. I'll park myself at a nice location and have coffee or ice tea for the night.  Can't afford bad judgement calls when mixing and certainly can't afford a DWI

I can just see getting busted and hauled off to the police station, leaving my van loaded with expensive gear on the side of the road getting ready to be towed off by people,who are pleased to rid me of my possessions.
I'll save the partying for when I'm at home.
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: Kev tyler on February 26, 2015, 11:13:33 AM
In the height of summer in Spain, when the gig is on the third floor and all ones gear is humped up stairs, I am afraid to say the first two beers barely touch the sides, but drink driving for me is a no no and that's why  after 32 years I hate doing gigs, hanging around all night drinking coke and lemonade, watching the bridal/birthday/anniversary/holiday makers get drunk, thank god for the ten minute get in and the occasional designated driver.

I love the beer umbrella idea, just another $49.99 for that I guess.

Kev
Title: Re: Even after all this time, using a DL1608…
Post by: robbocurry on February 27, 2015, 08:15:54 AM
I should have said DUI.  I don't even know the fine for a DUI.  That is something that will never happen to me.
In the UK a "DUI" is a criminal offence (with severe consequences) with a minimum one year driving ban and a social stigma to go with it. The limit is low, people get caught the next day/morning after.
I've nothing against booze, moderation is the key and never when driving ;)