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Unofficial Mackie User Forums => DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers => Topic started by: Kevin on March 15, 2013, 11:34:13 PM
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This was one of the most immediately useful tips that I got from the old Mackie forum before it died:
The Airport Express has a stereo out jack and supports "Air Play" enabled apps like the iPad music player. So you can stream break music wirelessly to the mixer
The downside is you have to give up two inputs on the DL, but for me it is worth sacrificing two inputs, in order not to have to dock the DL in order to play music from it.
If the application supports Air Play, there is a little square in the upper right corner that you can click on and select "Airport Express" as the Airplay device.
AFAIK, only the Airport Express supports this. The Airport Extreme does not
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I usually do the break music wherever we play and have found 2 "DJ" programs that are Airplay enabled. I downloaded the first one"djay" and I noticed on the second break it would drop out for a second and them come back on and the tune playing would actually sound like a skip on a turntable (remember vinyl?) and thought that it was a bug in the djay program so I found another program "Air Scratch HD" and downloaded it and it does the same thing as the other dj program, so I'm thinking it is now not the apps but Airplay? I have never had a drop out with the band, so am stumped on how to correct this as I get a load of dirty looks from the dance floor and crowd when this happens. Anybody else having this problem or can offer suggestions on how address it?
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I think the issue you are having is due to the Master Fader App "re-connecting" after you have been to the DJ app.
One of the things that the 1.4 update is supposed to correct is the Master Fader app having to "reconnect" when we have gone to another app.
I stream break music from iTunes on the iPad with the Apple Express and don't have any skipping issues. Have you tried iTunes playing the music?
Dan
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Are you using a 2.4 GHz or 5 GHz connection? It could have been a WiFi dropout.
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Hmm.. I have heard something like a CD stutter while using Airplay with the iTunes music player, but AFAIK its only happened twice in the 3 months that I've had the DL. Both times when I heard the stutter, I assumed that there it was due to cell phone interference with the WiFi, so I set the iPad near the DL, which seemed to solve the problem. If its doing it a lot, you might want to change your WiFi settings. I'm still running at 2.4Ghz, but others have reported improved results going to 5Ghz band. Also, make sure that that MF and your DJ app are the only ones running on your iPad
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Never tried Imusic and only have MF and DJ app running on Ipad for whole show. The drop outs have occurred during DJ app use, usually have 2 songs cued and never go back to Master Fader until the break is over. I will try switching to 5ghz.
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It's Air-wave congestion at 2.4 gig. This of course would increase as more people check their e-mails etc. during intermission. Old Bluetooth devises are also part of the problem and lets not forget those Microwave ovens going at some venues as people order food. Best choice for now is 5 gig until it gets crowded.
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I use an old iPod streaming Pandora "Irish Pub Rock" into ch 16 of the DL through a special XLR cable I made to combine R+L into a single signal. This work fine if you are ok with a mono signal. I think I used 10K resistors on the summing network. I've slept since I made it. :o. I might add, this cable would work for the Airport Express if you wanted to save a channel.
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Also - If you are using 2.4Ghz band, turn off the bluetooth in your iPad to avoid unnecessary interference (handy tip from Dan on old forum). This is probably a good thing to do whether you are streaming music or not.
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I use an old iPod streaming Pandora "Irish Pub Rock" into ch 16 of the DL through a special XLR cable I made to combine R+L into a single signal. This work fine if you are ok with a mono signal. I think I used 10K resistors on the summing network. I've slept since I made it. :o. I might add, this cable would work for the Airport Express if you wanted to save a channel.
Why don't you just put your iPod on mono mode? You did a lot of work to combine the signals when the iPod could do it for you.
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Jerrylee, I use the combiner cable for other devices too, such as my Olympus recorder, Airport Express, or anything else with a stereo out. I looked again on my 2007 vintage iPod and don't see a mono out option, maybe I'm just missing it. I have seen that option on my ipad and 4s phone.
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If using the express and your wireless iOS device is set to mono the express will receive a mono signal.
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Why don't you just put your iPod on mono mode?
Why don't you just stick a cork in one ear?
Someone on the old forum suggested an app called Tango Remote. I have been using it almost exclusively and love this app.
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Lee, That was me and I still use it exclusively. I like the idea of being able to control it remotely. I know others use LouderLogic (great with normalization / transitions), but no remote capability.
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Can you stream using an iPad and an AirPort Extreme?
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Can you stream using an iPad and an AirPort Extreme?
No. Only with the express.
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I use a DI that combines stereo inputs into mono.....leaves me a spare finger for something other than my ear ;)
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I use tango remote with my IPhone docked running Tango in server mode works fine , as long as no one calls :)
And dosn't take up any audio channels
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I use tango remote with my IPhone docked running Tango in server mode works fine , as long as no one calls :)
And dosn't take up any audio channels
Handy little app, thanks for the tip ;)
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Lee, That was me and I still use it exclusively. I like the idea of being able to control it remotely. I know others use LouderLogic (great with normalization / transitions), but no remote capability.
The best thing for me is that when I am on break and walking around the bar with my phone in my pocket, if I notice the break music playing too loud or soft, I can change it without running up to the stage. BRILLIANT!
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I use a DI that combines stereo inputs into mono.....leaves me a spare finger for something other than my ear ;)
Maybe you could use that finger to put the iPad in mono mode so you don't have to worry about using that DI.
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I use a DI that combines stereo inputs into mono.....leaves me a spare finger for something other than my ear ;)
Maybe you could use that finger to put the iPad in mono mode so you don't have to worry about using that DI.
The only way to properly experience mono music is to use that finger to plug up one ear.
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Lee, That was me and I still use it exclusively. I like the idea of being able to control it remotely. I know others use LouderLogic (great with normalization / transitions), but no remote capability.
The best thing for me is that when I am on break and walking around the bar with my phone in my pocket, if I notice the break music playing too loud or soft, I can change it without running up to the stage. BRILLIANT!
The only advantage of tango is that you can use the dock connector. But it still uses a sub par music player and that to me is a big issue. I was the one that told everyone about louder logic. The reason I originally found it was that I was searching for an app with crossfades. Crossfades are priceless when it comes to break music. It removes the little bit of down time between songs. People who are dancing, or whatever, take that short break as a reason to stop dancing, or just hanging out. Imagine going to a club where there is a dj and he stops the music for 2 seconds between songs. He won't have a job for long. Unless its a strip club. I have seen this issue happen tons of times at places including ones I play. I always try to override the house systems so that I play break music. They always wonder why I keep the people going.
The other big advantage of louder logic is the ALX. It's more than just a leveling process. Everything sounds so much better. And when songs do fade out before crossfades kick in it keeps the level higher. It's really hard to explain how much better it is. The past several days I have been playing on a Bahamas cruise. The pub were I play was filled with women dancing. On my breaks they kept gong and were requesting songs. I had to go to my iPad music player for the requests. Louder logic was playing. When I switched to the stock app it was a huge difference. It sucked. Volume was way off, all the bass seemed to disappear, and it seemed lifeless. And I had to play one song at a time without crossfades which was a total bummer.
Even if louder logic isn't for you it's still a great idea to have an app with crossfades. They are a game changer. If you don't believe me then experiment for yourself. Wait till you have a busy room and try it both ways. See the difference with crossfades and without. And as far as I know tango remote does not offer them.
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I use a DI that combines stereo inputs into mono.....leaves me a spare finger for something other than my ear ;)
Maybe you could use that finger to put the iPad in mono mode so you don't have to worry about using that DI.
The only way to properly experience mono music is to use that finger to plug up one ear.
Disagree. There is some sound leakage. The best way is to stick a knife in one ear and cut out the ear drum. That'll do it real well.
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I use a DI that combines stereo inputs into mono.....leaves me a spare finger for something other than my ear ;)
Maybe you could use that finger to put the iPad in mono mode so you don't have to worry about using that DI.
Yes I would, if my stereo source was an iPad, but it isn't. :D
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What is your stereo source?
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What is your stereo source?
I have several different stereo sources, Roland drum kit, keyboards, MBP, file players, iPods and iPads.
I was suggesting the DI box as a generic way to sum stereo to mono, not specifically for "i" devices which have mono switching.
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Robbo we are talking about using AirPlay to stream break music from iPad and/or tango remote. Not the the other stuff you mentioned.
But to address what you posted all but the file players you mentioned there can be used in mono. Yes the drum kit, the keyboards, the iPad and iPads, and mbp can be used as mono sources. I have no idea what file players you are referring too. But if they are running through the iPad, iPod, or mbp they can be used mono.
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Occasionally I use my iPhone via Airplay.
My Airport Express is used to run my Luminair lighting rig so is usually not that handy to the mixer, that's why I use the DI plus a long XLR .
(My DL runs on a different router)
Very quickly, is it easy to mono out a MBP running DJay or iTunes? It isn't something I've looked into.
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Occasionally I use my iPhone via Airplay.
My Airport Express is used to run my Luminair lighting rig so is usually not that handy to the mixer, that's why I use the DI plus a long XLR .
(My DL runs on a different router)
Very quickly, is it easy to mono out a MBP running DJay or iTunes? It isn't something I've looked into.
If it's going to take 30 mins to find out from the manual and organise on the laptop, I'll take the quick option and use the DI ;)
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I thought he DL meds to be connected to a router's LAN port, and the Express only has a WAN connection?
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I thought he DL meds to be connected to a router's LAN port, and the Express only has a WAN connection?
The Express has both WAN and LAN connections
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I thought he DL meds to be connected to a router's LAN port, and the Express only has a WAN connection?
The Express has both WAN and LAN connections
I see an Ehernet port, USB, and an optical digital/ analogue mini plug jack. I thought the Ethernet port was a wan connection, or am I missing something?
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I thought he DL meds to be connected to a router's LAN port, and the Express only has a WAN connection?
The Express has both WAN and LAN connections
I see an Ehernet port, USB, and an optical digital/ analogue mini plug jack. I thought the Ethernet port was a wan connection, or am I missing something?
Are you guys talking about the airport express base station, or the smaller ap express that has the foldable, built in AC plugs? I see the base station has two ports but not the smaller unit
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The one with the built in plug is the old model. The express was changed in 2012. The older on does not work with the dl because of the port issue. There was a posted workaround but it worked like shit.
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The one with the built in plug is the old model. The express was changed in 2012. The older on does not work with the dl because of the port issue. There was a posted workaround but it worked like shit.
Thanx for the info. Suddenly, it all makes sense!