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Title: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: James91104 on October 18, 2014, 07:16:58 PM
Certain to be of interest for some

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/presonus-uc-surface/id909365316?mt=8
Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: ijpengelly on October 19, 2014, 12:04:48 PM
Thanks James, I downloaded and had a play. Some good features and quite a decent layout. I found a few things less than intuitive and at some point I'll write my thoughts on it.
Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: Kev tyler on October 19, 2014, 04:05:46 PM
. I found a few things less than intuitive and at some point I'll write my thoughts on it.

You would be better to use word or note pad for that mate,

I'll get my coat,

Serious now,

You can't beat  the master fader app  it's so clear, everyone is going  on about that, although I am not sure  what  you mean about less than intuitive in this case, it  makes me wonder why they ( the manufacturing collective)don't try to improve  our lot, and head towards a common work flow  were you get accustomed to a berry desk, and don't feel thrown to the lions when thrown in the deep end with another manufacturers product. I am not suggesting collaboration but some sort of standardiisation must be possible?

Kev
Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: James91104 on October 19, 2014, 06:56:50 PM
In reference to the Pres... UCRemote App....
Like: bottom input fader scroll bar/meter bridge.
Like NOT: solo/mute buttons too close together. Difficult to access on an iPad Mini.
I have no access to a Win8 21" Touch Panel to demo as of yet, so presumably not an issue.

http://www.presonus.com/products/StudioLive-RM-Series/downloads
Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: Wynnd on October 20, 2014, 03:34:22 AM
Agreed on the upper buttons.  I find myself going into the Para EQ when attempting to mute the channel.  Too easy to miss.  (Even on a full sized ipad.)   Waiting for Apple to introduce an oversized ipad.
Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: Fluddman on October 20, 2014, 04:49:13 AM
It make me appreciate how good the layout of Master Fader is!   (oops sorry for straying off topic)

Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: ijpengelly on October 20, 2014, 05:58:42 AM
. I found a few things less than intuitive and at some point I'll write my thoughts on it.

You would be better to use word or note pad for that mate,

I'll get my coat,

Boom Boom! LOL

I think it is a 28" touchscreen  ::)

The small buttons are a bit challenging and it isn't always clear or easy how you get back to the original view. I prefer the big graph you get for doing EQ on MF and the lack of a visible low cut on the EQ display would make you wonder if it was on.

Clearly it was designed for a larger device and have tried to be consistent with it across devices, hence cramming it in. (I say clearly, in my opinion it seems to be)
Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: Kev tyler on October 20, 2014, 03:38:59 PM
Hi jpg jelly,

Better stick to singing me I think,

What I find troublesome with many of these apps, is how deep you get in the menus and how difficult it is to get back to the channel faders, I am lucky I am on my jack jones, but imagine it must be a pain in bum when you are in the thick of it.

I suppose it's all down to experiencing yourself with the kit and such, but if you were only doing odd gigs with these bigger desks, I can imagine you would have to keep your hand in at home with the virtual sound checks?

Cheers


Kev
Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: ijpengelly on October 20, 2014, 04:32:55 PM
jpg jelly, that's a new one LOL   :o

Ian is fine :-)

Runaway feedback, which then set you into a panic is the worst experience I have had and it took me a few seconds to get my head together and find the mute button. Thankfully, it was during a break when I was resetting a monitor and the gain was a bit higher than its counterpart. So I can imagine if you have a shed load of monitor sends and one gets away and you have to dig through menus to kill it, then it could be embarrassing at best and costly at worst. On the whole I find MF quite easy to move through swiftly (2 and a bit years of decent use), so that's possibly why I struggle a little with other apps.
Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: Kev tyler on October 20, 2014, 11:35:12 PM
Thanks Ian

Autospell has renamed you, not me.

I think we will lament faders one day,

 :)
Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: Keyboard Magic on October 20, 2014, 11:44:16 PM
Autospell has renamed you, not me.

I think we will lament faders one day,

 :)

Ah, Autospell /autocorrect, the bane of smartphone users world wide  :facepalm:  I already do lament over faders.  :D
Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: robbocurry on October 21, 2014, 08:51:00 AM
Real faders are hard to beat in a panic situation - like the first song of the night when the drummer has decided to turn up his powered monitor and I have to find out where the massive feedback is coming from. Just like last Saturday night. >:( 
Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: ijpengelly on October 21, 2014, 08:54:27 AM
You are brave, letting a drummer near electrical equipment!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: robbocurry on October 21, 2014, 09:24:29 AM
You are brave, letting a drummer near electrical equipment!  :facepalm:

I know, what was I thinking!?
I'll not make that mistake again!  ;)
Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: Keyboard Magic on October 21, 2014, 03:07:13 PM
You are brave, letting a drummer near electrical equipment!  :facepalm:

I know, what was I thinking!?
I'll not make that mistake again!  ;)

What can I say? Love it. Still chuckling.  ;D  I never knew drummers played loud.  :P
Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: Kev tyler on October 23, 2014, 03:53:21 PM
Faders will be back soon, well maybe not faders, but wireless controllers with increment buttons,

I am spending an hour a day  meditating with my tin foil hat on, this is the method I used to inspire the x12 air.

Should take about 2 years I think

 :)
Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: Wynnd on October 23, 2014, 04:55:08 PM
Eliminating the actual sliding potentiometer kills off a bunch of failure points.  Some type of physical slider over a touch screen would work for me.  Will have to see what they come up with.
Title: Re: Pres.... UC Surface
Post by: Kev tyler on October 23, 2014, 05:11:24 PM
I suggested earlier that iPads will attach to remote controls in the future,

there is no need anymore for long grow faders, the fader will appear on screen , + and - toggle paddles will do everything a fader can in a smaller space, the controller will do away with those expensive wrap around covers that Apple flog us and charge our pads.


Bonus

Kev