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Title: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: WK154 on July 05, 2015, 03:37:10 AM
For those having WiFi connect difficulties perhaps some of these situations apply to you. Read on I'm sure you'll be amazed at some of Apple's treatment of customers around the globe.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5786102?start=0&tstart=0
I have a iPad 3 and a 2.4 gig only router (D-Link 655) and have had none of these issues, dumb luck I guess. ;D
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: Kev tyler on July 06, 2015, 11:35:34 AM
I am glad I got rid of my express router, I do like my pad air I , in a quirky low memory no usb type of way, but I don't think I will buy another  when it croaks, when that sad day comes I will rid myself of the dreaded I tunes too.

 :)
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: Harpman on July 09, 2015, 02:53:13 PM
Never had issues with my Airport Express.  Am I just one of the lucky ones? :)


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Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: robbocurry on July 09, 2015, 04:10:13 PM
Never had issues with my Airport Express.  Am I just one of the lucky ones? :)
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Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: sam.spoons on July 09, 2015, 04:14:47 PM
Me too, Airport Express works like a dream  8)
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: Wynnd on July 09, 2015, 04:20:58 PM
Airport Express has been working just fine and I'm running both bands.  (I have an iphone 4S which can't do 5 Ghz that is used as another monitor control.) 
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: stevegarris on July 09, 2015, 08:43:21 PM
Me 4. No problems at all.
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: Keyboard Magic on July 09, 2015, 09:28:53 PM
100% working for me. Oops! Now I jinxed it, darn!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: Kev tyler on July 10, 2015, 09:09:19 AM
Hi guys

Maybe if the Dl had the direct ethernet via cable  and simultaneous wi fi control  from a different platform options like berry x users, you might have had  a different experience,

I think the existence of a single wan port on the express  does not help x air users.

Kev
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: RoadRanger on July 10, 2015, 12:02:59 PM
I think the existence of a single wan port on the express  does not help x air users.
Easy enough to add a cheap 5 port Ethernet switch between the X-Air and Express to give you more ports 8) .
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: WK154 on July 10, 2015, 05:35:01 PM
I think the existence of a single wan port on the express  does not help x air users.
Easy enough to add a cheap 5 port Ethernet switch between the X-Air and Express to give you more ports 8) .
Even easier if you buy a quality dual frequency router with the usual 4 LAN ports. ::)
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: Kev tyler on July 12, 2015, 12:59:17 PM
Cheers rr but what wk said.

 :)
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: dpdan on July 12, 2015, 04:43:57 PM
Even easier if you buy a quality dual frequency router with the usual 4 LAN ports. ::)

Gee, with phenominal performance from all these people posting about their more than happy experience with the Airport Express,
and for me having over two years and about 150 jobs, I guess I better go to Best Buy and get a "quality" router since WK thinks the
Apple Airport Express is just a piece of junk because he hates Apple.

I don't like everything about Apple either, but their products are wonderful in my opinion.
Opinions, just likes yours are like butt holes.....
WK... I hope you enjoy your "quality" router and the other things connected to all those WAN ports.
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: Wynnd on July 13, 2015, 12:57:00 AM
We already know there are others that are upset that they have to have an Apple product to use these mixers.  That's a pity.  Generally Apple products are pretty good.  Nothing is perfect and my own experience with my Wife's android phone leads me to never want that.  The Windows phone is pretty good.  (Close to functionality of an iphone.)  If every piece of software was cross platform, everyone could use whatever hardware they wanted to.   I suspect that would come with a huge price tag. 
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: WK154 on July 13, 2015, 07:19:30 AM
Even easier if you buy a quality dual frequency router with the usual 4 LAN ports. ::)

Gee, with phenominal performance from all these people posting about their more than happy experience with the Airport Express,
and for me having over two years and about 150 jobs, I guess I better go to Best Buy and get a "quality" router since WK thinks the
Apple Airport Express is just a piece of junk because he hates Apple.

I don't like everything about Apple either, but their products are wonderful in my opinion.
Opinions, just likes yours are like butt holes.....
WK... I hope you enjoy your "quality" router and the other things connected to all those WAN ports.
Dpdan what is that old saying "ignorance is bliss" and you have a lot of bliss. I doubt you ever had to deal with Apple or some of their computers/network products. They are considered overpriced middle of the road performers in the network world. If you want to label that "junk" that's your opinion.
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: Kev tyler on July 13, 2015, 08:58:12 AM
Hi dan

I think the express works well with the mackie product, just not so with the x air range, I thought I had a duff unit at first but it seems from the many issues I have read, that I am not alone..

It is an expensive unit I think considering it only has one port and won't actually deliver adsl from the socket in your wall.

But I am glad you are having a good time with yours

Cheers

Kev
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: Wynnd on July 13, 2015, 02:05:22 PM
It's only expensive if you compare it to a single band slower WiFi unit.  Dual band units are all around $100.  (Or more.)
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: Kev tyler on July 14, 2015, 12:00:39 PM
Fair point,

They should have just charged a dollar more and put another wan port on it, just like it's crazy that it's big brother omits AirPlay.

 :)
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: Wynnd on July 14, 2015, 12:06:32 PM
I can see that.  I'm running a Time Capsule at home.  on the other hand, I probably wouldn't use airplay at home. I do use it at rehearsals and rarely at gigs.
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: Kev tyler on July 15, 2015, 01:34:41 PM
Yes we all have different requirements, and fair play it must be hard to keep everyone happy.

 :)
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: robbocurry on July 15, 2015, 02:15:37 PM
Hi dan

I think the express works well with the mackie product, just not so with the x air range, I thought I had a duff unit at first but it seems from the many issues I have read, that I am not alone..

It is an expensive unit I think considering it only has one port and won't actually deliver adsl from the socket in your wall.

But I am glad you are having a good time with yours

Cheers

Kev
Hey Kev,
It works perfectly with Mackie and my A&H QU stuff too. Maybe it's not the Apple at fault here..... >:D
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: WK154 on July 15, 2015, 04:34:29 PM
For those that don't have the time to browse the Apple forum I referred to here is a summary by the originator of the thread.

"gloede99
Apr 7, 2015 6:57 PM
Re: iPad2 not connecting to 2.4Ghz Wireless Networks in response to spachner

Spachner,

     I'm the original person that started this thread and Lasse_Moell actually discovered the root source of the problem. My story was a very long one but to sum it up, I basically upset Apple enough that they started deleting my post because I was violating the terms of this forum. What I posted were things like case numbers which not only helps them cause the two original cases opened inthe US and Europe have lots of technical details, but also helps those customers that are less technically than myself or Lasse. Other things that were deleted were links to pages that Apple has known about this issue for A LONG time ( search for this subject on web sites that have the number 9 and the number 5 in the URL ). Sorry I can't tell you the site or numbers cause for sure they will delete them. Also mysteriously I stopped receiving notifications from this web site when this thread gets updated. Why....who knows?  Anyway my story ended well, but by far it is not the most common.......Apple did replace my out of warentee iPad 2 but it was a 3 month battle, calls to HQ's, and very technical debugging where there was no technical response to our findings. Unfortunately the cheapest and less trouble "fix" the consumer holds the answer....buy a dual band router and replace your working one you have. My only other suggestion is Lasse told me in Europe you have some sort of consumer protection for electronics ...   kind of and extended warentee from the European Union..... Hopefully I am explaining it so you understand. Good luck."

The problem started in iOS 7 and still exists in 8.2, so much for response time or quality. ;D
As to the high price and middle of the road performance for those that don't understand, it's called "Bang for your Buck". It has nothing to do with whether it works or not.
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: Kev tyler on July 16, 2015, 02:38:38 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: WK154 on July 18, 2015, 04:21:08 AM
It's only expensive if you compare it to a single band slower WiFi unit.  Dual band units are all around $100.  (Or more.)
Wynnd you need to go shopping more often. Dual Bands for $40-$70 have better features than the Airport Express at $99.
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: Wynnd on July 18, 2015, 05:40:50 AM
I've gotten to like Apple products and I own some stock.  (Bought at $20 a share years ago.)  I haven't purchased a WiFi router since Sept 2013.  It's been a while and these products are still dropping in price.  (hearing aids are still getting more expensive.  Why is that?)  I'm unlikely to purchase another router for at least a couple of years.
Title: Re: Fruit Flies gather round
Post by: gerenm63 on July 19, 2015, 04:37:30 PM
We already know there are others that are upset that they have to have an Apple product to use these mixers.  That's a pity.  Generally Apple products are pretty good.  Nothing is perfect and my own experience with my Wife's android phone leads me to never want that.  The Windows phone is pretty good.  (Close to functionality of an iphone.)  If every piece of software was cross platform, everyone could use whatever hardware they wanted to.   I suspect that would come with a huge price tag.

They knew going in that the DL mixers require at least one Apple product to work. If they hate having to use an Apple product, they should never have bought a DL in the first place. Frankly, I'm sick and tired about people bitching a fit about it. If you hate it that much, sell it and buy something else and leave the rest of us to our work.