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DL32R Latency while recording.
Sir Krang:
And I'd like to add that I'm a hugely happy DL1608 owner. I absolutely love this mixer, and all the stuff it can do.
Having come from the live music scene in the late 80's onwards I broke my back loading all that heavy live sound speaker shit. And it drove me mad dealing with venues about where I could and couldn't set up my FOH mixer, and multicore cabling (I think we can all relate to this)
Mackie has pushed the small venue gig setup to the next level, and I'm So Grateful to Mackie for how simple and streamlined they have made my otherwise tedious, time consuming, and back breaking job!
Some parts of the Internet might refer to me as an "Apple Fan boy"
Yeah, well maybe. But the simple plain fact remains that I dig how simple iOS is to use from my "average joe" perspective. Simple, easy to grasp, no unnecessary frills.
I regard Mackies Master Fader OS in the same way.
Simple, easy to grasp, no unnecessary frills.
No user manual required, coz it all makes perfect sense :)
Wynnd:
I'm just going to assume that your drummer is able to hear something that I can't. My one drummer is using a Roland E-drum kit. No problems, but we're not using monitors. (PA in the backline. Low volume band.) Could also be the results of growing up with high speed games. He might be able to notice latency that 99.9 % would never notice. (Kind of like perfect pitch. Rare but it does exist.) I'm with you on making him happy. It's the right thing to do.
RoadRanger:
While it would be interesting to acquire the show file and actually measure the delay I'm not that interested ;) . Maybe Mackie would want to check it out?
I suspect that eDrums have some latency themselves, maybe that added to the mixer's latency is enough to be noticeable? OTOH this is the first report I've seen of ANY digital mixer's latency being noticeable on eDrums in-ears monitoring. I have heard of some singer's demanding analog monitoring of their voice in their in-ears but that's more a matter of their direct voice "combing" with the in-ears.
Wynnd:
I really am going to attribute this to his sensitivity being much sharper than most. Hey, stuff like this happens. I wouldn't notice latency less than 30 milli-seconds. (But I'm old and slow.) When we're young we think that everyone experiences things the same, but that's not true. I wasn't able to visually follow a hit golf ball until I was over 30 years old. Most people never have problems doing that.
Greg C.:
--- Quote from: Sir Krang on April 05, 2015, 07:08:14 AM ---Anyway due to our personal history of hundreds of gigs together I'm perfectly happy to listen to his opinions, and feedback.
If he heard a noticeable delay in his ears when we tried to simplify his monitor patching using a direct AUX send from the DL then I'm 100% happy with his observations.
He heard it. I accept that. We went back to his "convoluted" analogue monitor system and he's all happy again.
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This is a very real phenomenon. It can be far more egregious with IEMs and vocalists. There is enough delay to create some comb filtering between the IEMs and the resonance of one's sinus leading back into the ears. I know of one well known rock singer that had to go back to his own personal analog mixer just for his vocals after the band's monitor desk was swapped from analog desk to a Midas Pro series. He couldn't stand the delay. So he hears his own vocals through an analog mixer and the rest of the mix from the Pro 9 is feed to that mixer as well. He's happy. He uses a combo of IEMs and wedges, the wedges being fed from the Pro 9 too.
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