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Unofficial Mackie User Forums => DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers => Topic started by: WK154 on July 21, 2015, 05:42:05 PM
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All the hardware is there so when will Apple provide iOS a reliable wired network connection. Anyone have any clue? The missing software in iOS. Mac already has had it for a while.
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Are you looking for the ability to connect the iPad directly to the DL32R via a network cable? That would be nice as a backup.
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All the hardware is there so when will Apple provide iOS a reliable wired network connection. Anyone have any clue? The missing software in iOS. Mac already has had it for a while.
Nothing is "missing" in iOS - it's had wired network capability for years. Apple uses it in their "big" demos - added after a spectacular wireless failure once. Many folks have figured out how to use it - Google it :) .
If I had a DL32R I'd sure investigate that 8). But I don't so :P.
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BTW I have iOS 9 running on one of my iPad2's and my iPad Mini. I've left the docked iPad2 on 8.x . I have Windows 10 on my laptop too - just love living on the bleeding edge :o :mrgreen:.
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All the hardware is there so when will Apple provide iOS a reliable wired network connection. Anyone have any clue? The missing software in iOS. Mac already has had it for a while.
Nothing is "missing" in iOS - it's had wired network capability for years. Apple uses it in their "big" demos - added after a spectacular wireless failure once. Many folks have figured out how to use it - Google it :) .
If I had a DL32R I'd sure investigate that 8). But I don't so :P.
Familiar with most of them and they all admit that it's flaky, just what is needed to complement the docking iPad problem. ;) There is even a service cable but it requires their own network stack (SDK) to make it work. Clearly YMMV but I did say reliable.
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BTW I have iOS 9 running on one of my iPad2's and my iPad Mini. I've left the docked iPad2 on 8.x . I have Windows 10 on my laptop too - just love living on the bleeding edge :o :mrgreen:.
So does iOS 9 provide a reliable wired solution to the DL series?
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So does iOS 9 provide a reliable wired solution to the DL series?
If I told you - well, you know ;)
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So does iOS 9 provide a reliable wired solution to the DL series?
Probably not for the DL32R. The firmware probably isn't set up for a wired connection to the iPad.
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So does iOS 9 provide a reliable wired solution to the DL series?
Probably not for the DL32R. The firmware probably isn't set up for a wired connection to the iPad.
Neither end should care if the Ethernet connection is wired or wireless - in fact the DL32R is ALWAYS wired as it has no built-in wireless.
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So, if I get a network adapter for my iPad, and have iOS 9, I should be able to have a successful wired connection to the DL32R? That would be a nice option.
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Currently the only path is via USB to Ethernet. It would have been nice if Apple provided a Lightning to Ethernet solution but it's too old, only Thunderbolt gets that privilege. That of course is not available for the iPad. Maybe this fall? Michael don't rush out and buy anything yet let the dust settle for this fall.
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Michael don't rush out and buy anything yet let the dust settle for this fall.
I'm not usually an early adopter. I'll wait for someone else to prove it out first. 8)
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So, if I get a network adapter for my iPad, and have iOS 9, I should be able to have a successful wired connection to the DL32R? That would be a nice option.
Except that only Apple has them and won't sell you one. You can cobble one together if you search on Google but it's not pretty :( .
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Except that only Apple has them and won't sell you one. You can cobble one together if you search on Google but it's not pretty :( .
Well, I'm not in any hurry. The wireless has been flawless so far.
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So does iOS 9 provide a reliable wired solution to the DL series?
If I told you - well, you know ;)
It's public so what's the problem? You didn't really sign a NDA ;D
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It's public so what's the problem? You didn't really sign a NDA ;D
Sorta did actually. There's plenty of leakage available on web - we won't really know the final feature set until the release. That's still in 7 days AFAIK, I think we can all wait that long ;) .
EDIT>Woops, I think thats the Windows 10 release, not the iOS 9 - I'm soo confuzed x( :lol:
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It's public so what's the problem? You didn't really sign a NDA ;D
Sorta did actually. There's plenty of leakage available on web - we won't really know the final feature set until the release. That's still in 7 days AFAIK, I think we can all wait that long ;) .
EDIT>Woops, I think thats the Windows 10 release, not the iOS 9 - I'm soo confuzed x( :lol:
Earth to RR that iOS date is still unknown but their Beta went public. Star date 7/22/2015 :)
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Maybe iOS 9 will solve connectivity issues, but as with all major iOS updates, will the current version of MF and MYF integrate smoothly with the new version? That always seems to be the burning question with a major OS update, especially with the DL series. Will there have to be another patch update to MF/MYF? Or will MF 4 be released around, or just after iOS 9 drops?
In a perfect world, the current versions of MF/MYF should work just fine, but as with all tech, it’s not always a perfect world. I’m really hoping for the perfect scenario, but I must have put on my rose colored glasses once again.
I think/hope Mackie have or are already rising to the challenge of the compatibility of MF/MYF with the continuously changing iOS. Once again “Burning the midnight oil” with the Beta iOS. It must be daunting to try to keep up with Apple.
Fingers crossed for a successful transition! 8)
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How about someone that has loaded iOS 9 beta look at setup to see if any hint of Ethernet setup exists. That would answer the OP question.
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How about someone that has loaded iOS 9 beta look at setup to see if any hint of Ethernet setup exists. That would answer the OP question.
All iPads have Ethernet already - via wireless. As I said they already have support for a wired adapter too - so what would you expect to see different?
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Really ? Wired if you must and once again Reliable you should know better. Where is the Apple Lightning or 30 pin to WIRED Ethernet connector?? Thunderbolt to wired Ethernet connection is available so I guess we have to wait for a Thunderbolt enabled iPad. :lol:
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Where is the Apple Lightning or 30 pin to WIRED Ethernet connector??
Is there such a thing? I did a quick search and couldn't find one.
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Where is the Apple Lightning or 30 pin to WIRED Ethernet connector??
Is there such a thing? I did a quick search and couldn't find one.
Apple has them for their own use -so far they've refused to sell any to the public. Some folks have cobbled one together out of a "Camera Connection Kit" (AKA iDevice to USB adapter) and a USB Ethernet adapter. If you search harder you should find the info...
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Here's a Lightning to UTP (unshielded twisted pair) Ethernet cable but it does require that the app using it have support for it compiled in...
http://redpark.com/lightning-ethernet-cable/
Mackie could easily support that for the D32R.
One of many "hack" tutorials:
http://9to5mac.com/2014/01/10/video-connect-your-ipad-to-the-internet-via-ethernet-cable-with-this-easy-hack/
Be aware that most of these are written by stoopid people that think that Ethernet is the UTP hardware and not what it really is - the communications protocol that can run over many different hardware links including wireless (RF and IR), coax, UTP, optical fiber, power line modulation, etc.
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So when do you think that Mackie is going to send you the source code so you can link it with the RedPark SDK ? ;)
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So when do you think that Mackie is going to send you the source code so you can link it with the RedPark SDK ? ;)
They can just compile it in - they really need to do something if they aren't going to have a laptop app soon :( .
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Hence the reason for this thread. :)
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There is a way to connect an iPad to a wired network. It requires a bit of $$$, but the real, official parts are there.
First thing is the camera kit for the iPad. This gives you a USB to lighting connector. Next up... A powered USB hub. Finally, the Apple USB to Ethernet adapter. Connect the camera kit and the Ethernet adapter into the USB hub. Then you can plug the Ethernet connection into you router... Voilà, wired iPad.
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There is a way to connect an iPad to a wired network. It requires a bit of $$$, but the real, official parts are there.
First thing is the camera kit for the iPad. This gives you a USB to lighting connector. Next up... A powered USB hub. Finally, the Apple USB to Ethernet adapter. Connect the camera kit and the Ethernet adapter into the USB hub. Then you can plug the Ethernet connection into you router... Voilà, wired iPad.
Have you actually tried it with a DL and Master Fader?
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It makes sense that it should work. After all, it doesn't matter to the DL mixer how the router is connected to the ipad. Only question is does it matter to the ipad how it's connected to the router? Someone ought to do it, but I don't have the stuff and I don't think anyone should be buying that to just test it.
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It makes sense that it should work. After all, it doesn't matter to the DL mixer how the router is connected to the ipad. Only question is does it matter to the ipad how it's connected to the router? Someone ought to do it, but I don't have the stuff and I don't think anyone should be buying that to just test it.
I figure one of the DL32R owners will give it a go - before or after they have an issue at a gig :facepalm:. Us DL1608/804 owners already have a usable wired solution 8) :P.
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It sounds reasonable, but I'm not willing to shell out a bunch of cash to test it. So far, the wireless solution has been flawless.
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It makes sense that it should work. After all, it doesn't matter to the DL mixer how the router is connected to the ipad. Only question is does it matter to the ipad how it's connected to the router? Someone ought to do it, but I don't have the stuff and I don't think anyone should be buying that to just test it.
I figure one of the DL32R owners will give it a go - before or after they have an issue at a gig :facepalm:. Us DL1608/804 owners already have a usable wired solution 8) :P.
So why don't you let us in on your little secret, others don't experience your level of confidence. ;)
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The dock on the DL1608 is quite usable, if not perfect...
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The dock on the DL1608 is quite usable, if not perfect...
Evading the question won't help!
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Evading the question won't help!
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I will try it soon, maybe in a week or two. I already have most of the pieces in place, just need the lightning to USB & the powered hub.
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It sounds reasonable, but I'm not willing to shell out a bunch of cash to test it. So far, the wireless solution has been flawless.
I have all the required parts ... somewhere. I know I can put my hands on the camera connection kit and the powered hub in short order. As a keyboard player, I use it to connect the iPad to my keyboards on OnSong can handle patch changes for me. I just have to remember where I stashed the USB-to-Ethernet gizmo. I have a gig tomorrow, so if I find it and I have time during the gig, I'll give it a go. Otherwise, I can probably test it sometime over the weekend.
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Well I haven"t heard from anyone with the wired solution via the wired USB-Network connection. Also make sure you understand what it takes to recover from a disconnect. :)
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Unfortunately, life and the day gig have gotten in the way of testing ... And then I forgot all about it. I will try it when I get some time.
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As I see it now there may be a solution coming with the introduction of the iPad Pro and a speculated USB 3.0 port. Unless Apple cripples it for Ethernet (no support) it would be the wired network solution for the DL series. So far I have not heard about a Lightning to Ethernet adapter. Get ready to spend another $1k to get this feature.
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To be perfectly honest, the wireless connection, for me, has been flawless. I wouldn't spend $1K for a wired backup.
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Michael and neither would I. Not when you can buy a 16 channel mixer for about that with wired ability and expand it for less than $1K.
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To be perfectly honest, the wireless connection, for me, has been flawless. I wouldn't spend $1K for a wired backup.
A lesson here. Never mention flawless with Murphy lurking about. ;)
There is always a first time I'm sorry to hear.
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Ha Ha. Good point. Well, it's still been flawless on my primary iPad.