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Unofficial Mackie User Forums => DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers => Topic started by: robbocurry on March 11, 2013, 11:24:21 AM
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Cool, nice idea setting this up RR
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Thanks for setting this up RR! I have a hunch that we've seen the last of the 'official' forum. Mackie posted this on Facebook earlier today ...
You will note that the Mackie forums remain down. We are working now to implement a modern knowledge base solution that will replace the Mackie forums. We will communicate more as new information arises.
Anyway ... I appreciate your giving us newly orphaned forum folks a new place to hang out!
:)
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Ha ha, you beat me there but I didn't see yours until I posted mine. FYI all first posts are on moderation to keep the spammers out but once your first post has been approved you are no longer on moderation and don't have to jump through hoops to post :) .
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We have a "modern knowledge base solution to replace the Mackie Forums" :lol: "let's do the show right here" >:D
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Sorry it took me so long to get here, I was stumped on the bass string question! 4,5,6,8 :o
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I just found this new forum and joined. I own the 1608 and I feel so mych better now.
Thank you All
Chris P.
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Sorry it took me so long to get here, I was stumped on the bass string question! 4,5,6,8 :o
Ha, yea, i didn't know if it meant how many a bass player users (2) or how many actually exist (4..) :)
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Sorry it took me so long to get here, I was stumped on the bass string question! 4,5,6,8 :o
Ha, yea, i didn't know if it meant how many a bass player users (2) or how many actually exist (4..) :)
Yeah, I was kinda thrown by that… had to remind myself that I'm a bass mutant (2 6-string axes, one without frets)
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Yeah, I was kinda thrown by that… had to remind myself that I'm a bass mutant (2 6-string axes, one without frets)
Maybe I should change the question to "How many frets are on a bass"? :lol:
Anyways welcome all :) !
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RR, too bad there wasn't time to get the whole gang here!
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RR, too bad there wasn't time to get the whole gang here!
Everyone knew about the Yahoo group at least, and could easily find their way here from there. Dunno why Lee and Jerry and the others haven't shown up yet. Maybe they just lost interest. I can "see" quite a few folks reading the posts here that haven't registered. There are 4 right now, as many as 9 today at one point :) .
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RR, too bad there wasn't time to get the whole gang here!
Everyone knew about the Yahoo group at least, and could easily find their way here from there. Dunno why Lee and Jerry and the others haven't shown up yet. Maybe they just lost interest. I can "see" quite a few folks reading the posts here that haven't registered. There are 4 right now, as many as 9 today at one point :) .
I doubt they lost interest, the Indians will find their way, LOL
Did you see the post Mackie put on FB today about major bugs and pushing back 1.4 and My Fader without a new release time?
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Did you see the post Mackie put on FB today about major bugs and pushing back 1.4 and My Fader without a new release time?
http://cacophony.aspinock.com/index.php?topic=192.msg965#msg965
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I put five strings but I knew I should have put down 4 :)
Thanks Road Ranger,,
I am so disappointed with Mackie's decisions about the forum.
I really think they thought that a number of posters there were from Behringer.
Dan Kury
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I am so disappointed with Mackie's decisions about the forum.
I really think they thought that a number of posters there were from Behringer.
I think it came down to the fact that they don't have the staff to take care of the forums. Towards the end we were going two weeks between posts from Mackie in "our" DL1608 forum :( . Hopefully enough of the old crew have made their way here that we can recover the more helpful hints & kinks from the old forum :) .
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We're still missing JerryLee, Larz and Hank. I'm sure they'll be along presently 8)
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We're still missing JerryLee, Larz and Hank. I'm sure they'll be along presently 8)
I posted this link on Mackie's FB page hoping the regulars will see it! Meanwhile, should we take bets on when 1.4 will be released!! :lol:
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I posted this link on Mackie's FB page hoping the regulars will see it! Meanwhile, should we take bets on when 1.4 will be released!! :lol:
I did post the link to the yahoogroup more than once warning folks they should at least bookmark it. If they didn't they're probably no great loss. As to the release - at least they have told us what's up so we don't have to make up stuff :). No more alien stories I guess :( ;) .
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I posted this link on Mackie's FB page hoping the regulars will see it! Meanwhile, should we take bets on when 1.4 will be released!! :lol:
I did post the link to the yahoogroup more than once warning folks they should at least bookmark it. If they didn't they're probably no great loss. As to the release - at least they have told us what's up so we don't have to make up stuff :). No more alien stories I guess :( ;) .
Honesty, that's all we ever asked for! looks like they have heard us! Still lame of them to shut down ALL the forums not just the DL one.......
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Thanks for setting this forum up RR.
Without the old forum I probably would have sent the DL back after the first day or two. As a concept, the DL is brilliant, but as a product, it still has some issues. Out of the box, with Mackie documentation, I'd say its about 75 percent functional. Once you learn the undocumented features and how to work around the various idiosyncrasies, its a great unit - but figuring out that last 25 percent takes some work. Mackie probably doesnt appreciate this - but you and the other regular forum contributors saved them from a lot of potential returns, and probably got them a few sales.
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Thanks RR. I'm also a former Mackie forum member. Glad I found you guys.
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I found it!
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Thanks for setting this forum up RR.
Without the old forum I probably would have sent the DL back after the first day or two. As a concept, the DL is brilliant, but as a product, it still has some issues. Out of the box, with Mackie documentation, I'd say its about 75 percent functional. Once you learn the undocumented features and how to work around the various idiosyncrasies, its a great unit - but figuring out that last 25 percent takes some work. Mackie probably doesnt appreciate this - but you and the other regular forum contributors saved them from a lot of potential returns, and probably got them a few sales.
+1
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Hey All,
Finally made it to here! -- What Up Road Ranger?????? -- Where is Jerry Lee?
Anyway, Thanks for starting this forum.
I left a comment on Mackies Blog page, or whatever that is, But it never passed moderation.
Here is the comment:
"As an owner of Both Presonus Studio Live and Mackie DL1608 …. Mackie really needs to pay attention to how Presonus does things, as far as online interaction goes. Presonus has the best forum, bar none, that is closely moderated. Presonus has their own LiveStream weekly bringing a wealth of information and how to’s regarding their products. They produce a ton af YouTube videos to guide, teach, and inspire …..
Mackie, you are making a BIG mistake ….. All this shows us, the consumers, is that you don’t care what we think, what we want, or what we need ….. It’s all about YOU. Times have changed …. you may have been THE player in the mixing space years ago …. but you are no longer the king of the hill ….. If I were you, I’d rethink your strategy, and give the users an opportunity to discuss and learn amongst themselves, along with real interaction by Mackie personel."
I don't think they liked it. -- But, it's true!
Looking forward to meeting you all!
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Hey All,
Finally made it to here! -- What Up Road Ranger?????? -- Where is Jerry Lee?
Anyway, Thanks for starting this forum.
I left a comment on Mackies Blog page, or whatever that is, But it never passed moderation.
No Jerry so far - it's way to quiet here without him ;).
Where is that page you tried to post to?
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Maybe they made him walk the plank! Then there is always the the Bermuda Triangle explanation sort of like BenO!
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No Jerry so far - it's way to quiet here without him ;).
Where is that page you tried to post to?
Here is the link. They never posted mine. They deleted it.
http://www.mackie.com/enews/news-events/2013/03/update-mackie-website-and-forum/1/?ubb=postlist&Board=27
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Here is the link. They never posted mine. They deleted it.
http://www.mackie.com/enews/news-events/2013/03/update-mackie-website-and-forum/1/?ubb=postlist&Board=27
They seem to be letting most comments stand. They even endorsed this forum :eek: :
Mackie on March 25, 2013 at 11:02 am said:
One of our awesome users has set up this forum and it looks like it is really taking off. Tons of great DL users on there for interaction: http://cacophony.aspinock.com/index.php?board=26.0
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That must be the famous "Rebel Mackoid" >:D
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Found my way to the new forum, but waited until I turned 13 to accept the terms.
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Mackie????Whats that???
The Update 1.4 Master Fader and My Fader??? Its a complete joke...Shame!!!
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Mackie????Whats that???
The Update 1.4 Master Fader and My Fader??? Its a complete joke...Shame!!!
Are you a beta tester and have already had a chance to use it or are you talking out yer arse?
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I do wonder if one of the reasons Mackie and now Line 6 have shut their forums down is all the negative comment on the forums. In the end it can't be healthy to have all that negativity on a company forum. I really hope it doesn't pervade here.
I've already seen one "stupid" comment about the 1.4 release before its even available. Lets be a bit sensitive in this forum and be always constructive.
Mike.
Ps, thanks for setting it up!
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Good to see you made it here! Everybody is holding their breath until V1.4 is available in the app store - it should get interesting in here when that happens ;) .
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Thanks. Glad to be here.
BTW, my guitar has 12 strings ;)
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BTW, my guitar has 12 strings ;)
(http://media.steampowered.com/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/d3/d37abedf8281160fec24f321b15f0af56d996607_full.jpg)
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Great job setting up this forum :thu:... I had been using Mackie's forum (up until it shutdown) after purchasing my DL1608 (a little over a month ago)... I saw the link to this forum posted on Mackies Facebook page...since then this has been a Very informative and helpful resource...these forums are very imperative with a product such as the 1608...it has saved me from, what could have been, some aggravating gig nights!
Cheers!
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The only other forum I'm a regular on is the Carvin Guitars community. They are very friendly, helpful, and civil over there. When I first started on the Mackie forum I was surprised to see how testy people were, and how many slammed the host company!
On the Carvin forum you can constructively criticize products (and they have a lot, between instruments and pro audio), and work through problems, but you can't rip the company! The moderators will delete your posts and eventually kick ya off, if your a troublemaker. Mackie had looked like they lost control of the community, with too many posts outright slamming their products and organization. You can't do that to your host, that's for the independent forums and troll havens.
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I do wonder if one of the reasons Mackie and now Line 6 have shut their forums down is all the negative comment on the forums.
Highly unlikely. Mackie's whole web presence and that of their parent company went dark for almost a week. Thats not a defensive move - thats a colossal screwup. I'm not saying that we shouldnt be civil, but we shouldnt be afraid to call it like we see it either. If you did something lame (not that you would), would you want your friends to tell you to your face or only talk about it when you are not around? I was a lurker on the old DL forum and yeah, there was a small minority of testy people, but if I had put a deposit on a DL last February with the expectation of getting one of the first units, only to see the release date keep getting pushed back month after month after month, I'd be mighty testy as well.
I'm really liking my DL and would not go back to my old 24-4 board even if I could (which I cant, because I sold it - that's how much I like the DL). Having said that, there are still a few things that are annoying to deal with in a modern $1500 (w/iPad and router) mixer. For example, Mackie loves their iconic 'rude solo button' feature - but the only thing 'rude' about the solo on the DL is that its only accessible through the headphones.
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For example, Mackie loves their iconic 'rude solo button' feature - but the only thing 'rude' about the solo on the DL is that its only accessible through the headphones.
In their defense us users specifically requested the "rude solo" feature be added and i think their addition of the "push to cancel all solos" is awesome :) . As to sending the solo to the iPad I don't think that is possible without significant latency and with the loss of the record "feature". It's easy enough to plug in some cheap wireless headphones or an IEM system if you really want this. If there is an issue I think I need to fix I'll walk up to the DL1608 sidestage and do it there anyways :) . OTOH my last gig in a stoopid small room required me to place the DL1608 where I couldn't access it without standing in front of the band :facepalm: so I just set the trims and didn't do any fine tuning thereafter that required soloing. A lot of tweaking is done more out of boredom than necessity anyways ;) .
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A lot of tweaking is done more out of boredom than necessity anyways ;) .
Well said RR ;D
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It's easy enough to plug in some cheap wireless headphones or an IEM system if you really want this.
Yeah, I've been thinking about that. Hard wiring the existing DL solo headphone output to the iPad mic input is probably cheaper/easier and would allow me to run 3rd party RTA on the solo bus with just an adapter, although AFIAK there is no off-the-shelf adapter to do this so I'd have to make one. Doable, but would have to be very careful to get the wiring right the first time or else either the DL or iPad headphone amp could be damaged. Might also require a pad, depending on how easy it is to control the DL phone outputs at very low level.
edit > It turns out that there IS an off the shelf cable that will attenuate the DL's solo out from a stereo headphone jack down to a mic level signal on the iPad/iPhone 3.5mm 4 conductor TRRS input. Its a little pricey, but no assembly required. AFAIK, its the cheapest way to be able to see the DL solo bus with an iPad RTA. Just ordered one. http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-iphone-mic42-a22.htm
Wireless is more tricky, what I'd really need is a decent quality wireless unit that I can send to the iPads mic input instead of cans, and that would take an input wireless plus a few adapters and probably at least one pad. More useful but not as attractive because (a) a big part of the appeal of the DL was less gear to deal with, (b) I'm a bit of a cheap bastard (partly why I went with DL instead of PreSonus in the first place)
Either way, for the amount time it would take me to make this work with just my one system, I'm pretty sure that one of Mackie's firmware jockeys could add a quick and dirty solo-to-32pin feature and make it work for everyone.
A lot of tweaking is done more out of boredom than necessity anyways
On an easy night, sure. At the other extreme, 3 or 4 weeks ago I did sound for a 5 piece acoustic old time band. Decent sized room, but standing room only, small stage and boisterous loud crowd. Upright bass and fiddle, plus 3 members alternating on fiddle, mandos, guitars and banjo every other song. 3 vocals. As the place filled up and got loud, it was really tough to get the sound to project to the back of the room without someones pickup wanting to howl, so I was being way conservative. The band was tight, they and the bar were happy with the sound, but I felt like having some better info about what was in the inputs would have been a big help - both for getting a little more gain without fear of ringing and to make sure each instrument always stood out in the mix as the lineup alternated. For this situation, it would have been much less stressful with my old rig, although I'm not sure where I would have put it.
edit > in fairness, I've also done some of my easiest gigs ever when one of the bandmembers has an iPad. In both cases, they were former bandmates so I trusted them. Getting up to speed in MF enough to move monitor faders takes no time and even without image saving, the channel and output labeling is fairly foolproof. The bands were stoked about being able to mix their own monitors and keeping on top of FOH was easy.