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Unofficial Mackie User Forums => DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers => Topic started by: Tnelson494 on March 14, 2013, 12:53:18 AM
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So does this mean there may be a slight delay in the "End of February" update ;D
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So does this mean there may be a slight delay in the "End of February" update ;D
I sure wouldn't bet against it. I am however, keeping hope alive that they will prove me wrong ... I have a gig on the 24th and would sure love to have it by then!!
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Me too, actually the 29th but close enough to hope they'll extract the digit.
BTW, cheers RR, good job. Do you think BenO will contribute :angel:
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Do you think BenO will contribute :angel:
He was down to popping in every two weeks or so towards the end so no, not likely to see him I'd think? He's probably hard at work getting V1.4 out. I think last he said it would be a couple weeks late so any day now :) .
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Feeling slightly mischievous I've just emailed Mackie Tech Support asking for an update on MF 1.4 and My fader >:D perhaps if we all do that every time we have a query they'll get fed up an reinstate the forums :eek:
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Well in theory this would be the week ....if you go by BenO's "a couple more weeks" I hope they stay true to it and keep putting out updates but either way I know right now Jerry Lee can't stop laughing and saying I told you so to every random stranger he walks by :lol:
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Well in theory this would be the week ....if you go by BenO's "a couple more weeks" I hope they stay true to it and keep putting out updates but either way I know right now Jerry Lee can't stop laughing and saying I told you so to every random stranger he walks by :lol:
I miss our favorite curmudgeon :( . He sure could get fired up over not much ;D .
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Latest official word on the release:
http://www.mackie.com/enews/tech/2013/03/where-are-master-fader-1-4-and-my-fader-1-0/
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Heh, I just noticed that the "forum" link on Mackie now gives us that bit of news… yesterday it was broken & I posted a (slightly mean) thing in the Facebook forum, guess it got heard.
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Just kind of Errks me that they were flashing the thing around at Namm so much made it seem like it was a done deal to every one that viewed it there then dropped the big it will be ready by the end of Feb and the only thing they did that was on the list of things people want is the channel ID pic save..... Some one on the forum dropped a pic view of the master fader compressor / Gate screen last fall that some one had accidentally slipped and left a Vintage / Modern tab on it so they've been working on that forever..... If this is taking so long because like Ben said they need to initiate some code to start working on other things that we need done great I can accept that I guess just would think it would include more then the fluff we already know is coming...man I need at least sub groups
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If it takes this long for a "simple" update, do you think there will be any/many more?
Aren't they more likely working on a replacement product already?
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If it takes this long for a "simple" update, do you think there will be any/many more?
Aren't they more likely working on a replacement product already?
I'm actually an EE and programmer in real life and can tell you that syncing pictorial channel labels between multiple iDevices connected to the DL1608 is not easy. OTOH many of the things we want are easier than that - if they are going to do channel linking and pre-comp auxes those changes should be relatively easy to do :) . Some change requests like reducing the iPad channel by 10 db or moving the mute buttons are trivial to do in comparison...
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When they crack this "nut" then perhaps we'll see minor upgrades more often.
As I've said before, I'm very happy with it as is.
What they've done is awesome, I could never have written any of it in "basic" lol - showing my age!
Maybe we need to send them more love and encouragement to ensure continued interest in the DL?
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I just want to know who is going to be brave enough to try 1.4 if it ever is released...
no going back.
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I just want to know who is going to be brave enough to try 1.4 if it ever is released...
no going back.
Hey, "No Guts, No Glory" - Welcome to the bleeding edge :D .
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BenO explained how to backup and restore a previous version in a post some time ago. I've just emailed Mackie Tech Support to ask for a recap which I'll post on here, but in case they don't reply is it possible to search the archive?
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BenO explained how to backup and restore a previous version in a post some time ago. I've just emailed Mackie Tech Support to ask for a recap which I'll post on here, but in case they don't reply is it possible to search the archive?
http://cacophony.aspinock.com/index.php?topic=220
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Brilliant, Thanks RR. Do you think that might be worth making a sticky?
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Brilliant, Thanks RR. Do you think that might be worth making a sticky?
Not until someone here tests it out - seems like a PITA to me and I'm not convinced it can downgrade the firmware in the DL1608. Personally I'd use this program to backup and restore the app - iTunes sucks x( :
http://www.i-funbox.com
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I'll give it a try when 1.4 finally arrives and report back 8) (maybe, I'v just had a look at i-funbox.....)
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Thanks for creating this. Really upset with MACKIE. If I had just purchased the DL1608 (and the entire DLM PA system)
I might be carting them back to Guitar Center to exchange for Behringer and QSC.
We the active users .. were both critics and supporters of the mixer .. and our input should have been invaluable to the
MACKIE staff .. helping them to shape and better refine the product. But it appears that they did not want any user
problems to be made public.
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It's not uncommon for things to be released at NAMM and not materialize for months, and sometimes are scrapped altogether. I had my eye on an Ultimate Stands speaker cart that was also the stand (speakers never leave the cart). They introduced at NAMM a few years ago and it never made it to market.
There's a good quote related to NAMM someone came up with years ago ("Not Available Maybe May")
FWIW, Presonus updates for the StudioLive have the same history. I've owned an SL since January of 2009. Presonus announces updates 3-6 months before you actually see them and sometimes don't even release all the functionality they tout ahead of time. In over 4 years they've had maybe 6 updates total.
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Thanks for creating this. Really upset with MACKIE. If I had just purchased the DL1608 (and the entire DLM PA system)
I might be carting them back to Guitar Center to exchange for Behringer and QSC.
We the active users .. were both critics and supporters of the mixer .. and our input should have been invaluable to the
MACKIE staff .. helping them to shape and better refine the product. But it appears that they did not want any user
problems to be made public.
I get where you're coming from but the Berry iX16 is still only vapourware so far ::) For the moment at least, the DL1608 is the market leader in a class of one.
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Well in theory this would be the week ....if you go by BenO's "a couple more weeks" I hope they stay true to it and keep putting out updates but either way I know right now Jerry Lee can't stop laughing and saying I told you so to every random stranger he walks by :lol:
I hate to say it...actually no I don't...I TOLD YOU SO. I even said that I wouldn't be surprised if Mackie shut down its forums. I guess it was all my fault. Spineless company. Can't wait till the x32 rack is released. I will never look back. Any company who would dump a great user database because they can't take the heat should not, and will not, be supported by me. If you have crappy business habits, don't know how to make a proper pr statements, have no problem lying to customers and not have the forethought to develop a product that wouldn't be left in the dust by its competitors, then you should be prepared for the backlash. Instead Mackie took the low road and punished its users.
Who is the one who said that they were ok about the delay but if it wasn't out by mid march then they would have to side with everyone who was complaining. It was either Hank or trshot. Where are you now? Still defending your beloved company. Again...I TOLD YOU SO.
Please o please behringer hurry up. FYI for everyone, the x32 rack is already out in Europe. They are waiting for US FCC approval. There are already reviews online. There are so many features Mackie will never, ever have in the dl. Here is one more: you can assign the inputs to multiple channels. You can take input 1 and assign it to channels 1 and 17. Then you can completely assign different effects, dynamics etc to each channel. Use channel 1 for the mains and channel 17 for the monitors. Sweet!
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Jerry is in da House!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJLSZfpwgFs
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Well in theory this would be the week ....if you go by BenO's "a couple more weeks" I hope they stay true to it and keep putting out updates but either way I know right now Jerry Lee can't stop laughing and saying I told you so to every random stranger he walks by :lol:
I hate to say it...actually no I don't...I TOLD YOU SO. I even said that I wouldn't be surprised if Mackie shut down its forums. I guess it was all my fault. Spineless company. Can't wait till the x32 rack is released. I will never look back. Any company who would dump a great user database because they can't take the heat should not, and will not, be supported by me. If you have crappy business habits, don't know how to make a proper pr statements, have no problem lying to customers and not have the forethought to develop a product that wouldn't be left in the dust by its competitors, then you should be prepared for the backlash. Instead Mackie took the low road and punished its users.
Who is the one who said that they were ok about the delay but if it wasn't out by mid march then they would have to side with everyone who was complaining. It was either Hank or trshot. Where are you now? Still defending your beloved company. Again...I TOLD YOU SO.
Please o please behringer hurry up. FYI for everyone, the x32 rack is already out in Europe. They are waiting for US FCC approval. There are already reviews online. There are so many features Mackie will never, ever have in the dl. Here is one more: you can assign the inputs to multiple channels. You can take input 1 and assign it to channels 1 and 17. Then you can completely assign different effects, dynamics etc to each channel. Use channel 1 for the mains and channel 17 for the monitors. Sweet!
Um, you want to talk about crappy business habits? Behringer is the poster child. Heck, their wiki page is over 50% FCC fines and legal cases over the years.
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I put a "change of address" in my signature at HC and would encourage others to invite folks to this forum to get some traffic building.
Looks like they took it back out :facepalm: . So far they've let me have my "angry mob" link to here in my sig :) .
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I love the 1608 it does all the things i've always wanted to do from the stage as far as playing in a band and running sound at the same time buuuut I'm starting to agree with Jerry Lee on this the more this thing strings along the more it feels like the company is on the verge of crashing hard. I've owned several things that started out kind of cool had potential then the company either went under or started another line (the next best newest thing) and stopped supporting the item I had and I was left with the option of looking for the next newest thing..... I mean if no more updates come out and they leave the 1608 the way it is now I can survive just fine but damn that would suck especially when you consider all the hype on getting customer feedback for future changes. Behringer used to be that bad company that no one took seriously but they are making a real effort to change there image and apparently there products. The future will tell I guess but if Mackie keeps racing towards the future the way they are I don't see them in it....
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I have been using the dl for a while now and it does most of what I need. But there are limitations that are just not acceptable. Having compression in my monitors makes using compression a no go. Especially on a larger stage. It does not look like they have any plans to address this issue. If they did someone would have said something. There is just not enough processing power to handle this. And something as small as having programmable mic pres on all the behringer x series is on its own a dl destroyer. Yes even on the ix16.
Here is a little more info you guys may not have about the ix16. Talk about smat thinking. The dock is not a dock. It is simply a tray/holder to put the iPad in. If you want to connect the iPad there is a USB out which all iPads can use. Not a limited 30 pin dock. And because of this the ix16 can be used as a 16 channel USB interface. It will also allow you to use Auria to get 16 tracks of recording. Natively you will only have stereo recording. (2 tracks).
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Please o please behringer hurry up. FYI for everyone, the x32 rack is already out in Europe.
The X32 Rack is not yet out in Europe, Berry's website still lists it as 'coming soon'
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There are people using it in Europe. Might not be out for sale yet but people are indeed using them. Testers maybe, but that means its getting very close.
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Oh no, the Mackie bashing has started again :-[
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Oh no, the Mackie bashing has started again :-[
Now this place feels like "home" ;D .
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I have been using the dl for a while now and it does most of what I need. But there are limitations that are just not acceptable. Having compression in my monitors makes using compression a no go. Especially on a larger stage. It does not look like they have any plans to address this issue. If they did someone would have said something. There is just not enough processing power to handle this.
As I said on the old forum - I'm a bit of a DSP programmer myself (and EE) and moving the tap point for the monitor sends will not require any additional processing power at all. It will require a bit more code to make it "switchable" and additional settings in the app but it should be fairly trivial assuming the code is "properly" structured. It should be just a matter of changing a pointer :) .
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Oh no, the Mackie bashing has started again :-[
Now this place feels like "home" ;D .
Maybe you should start another forum for domestically abused musicians RR ;)
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Oh no, the Mackie bashing has started again :-[
Now this place feels like "home" ;D .
Maybe you should start another forum for domestically abused musicians RR ;)
I'll join up if my wife lets me...... :eek:
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Rr can you tell me how I can set up this account here so that I can stop getting an email every time there is a post?
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Rr can you tell me how I can set up this account here so that I can stop getting an email every time there is a post?
"Profile", "Account Settings", "Modify Profile", "Notifications"
Rather than turning them off I'd suggest changing:
"For topics and boards I've requested notification on, notify me:"
to "Daily".
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Ty
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Well in theory this would be the week ....if you go by BenO's "a couple more weeks" I hope they stay true to it and keep putting out updates but either way I know right now Jerry Lee can't stop laughing and saying I told you so to every random stranger he walks by :lol:
I hate to say it...actually no I don't...I TOLD YOU SO. I even said that I wouldn't be surprised if Mackie shut down its forums. I guess it was all my fault. Spineless company. Can't wait till the x32 rack is released. I will never look back. Any company who would dump a great user database because they can't take the heat should not, and will not, be supported by me. If you have crappy business habits, don't know how to make a proper pr statements, have no problem lying to customers and not have the forethought to develop a product that wouldn't be left in the dust by its competitors, then you should be prepared for the backlash. Instead Mackie took the low road and punished its users.
Who is the one who said that they were ok about the delay but if it wasn't out by mid march then they would have to side with everyone who was complaining. It was either Hank or trshot. Where are you now? Still defending your beloved company. Again...I TOLD YOU SO.
Please o please behringer hurry up. FYI for everyone, the x32 rack is already out in Europe. They are waiting for US FCC approval. There are already reviews online. There are so many features Mackie will never, ever have in the dl. Here is one more: you can assign the inputs to multiple channels. You can take input 1 and assign it to channels 1 and 17. Then you can completely assign different effects, dynamics etc to each channel. Use channel 1 for the mains and channel 17 for the monitors. Sweet!
JerryLee....JL, buddy, I'm not feeling the love! Did you trip on the cruise ship and get amnesia and forget who I am? Maybe this will jog your memory.... The last update was nothing but " lipstick"! :lol:
BTW, glad to see you found this haven RR has put together! One of our Nemesis' has found this forum as well, so things are sure to get interesting! >:D
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"Nemesis" are we back to name calling? Keep it clean and professional and there shouldn't be any problem.
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"Nemesis" are we back to name calling? Keep it clean and professional and there shouldn't be any problem.
? ? ?
Nemesis: a formidable and usually victorious rival or opponent.
That bothers you that he called you the good guy?
Batman is the Joker's main nemesis and always foils his wicked plots.
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That was based on history not dictionary definition.
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Nemisis, weren't they a 70's prog band with a singing drummer?
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Actually one of these might apply.
nem·e·sis (nm-ss)
n. pl. nem·e·ses (-sz)
1. A source of harm or ruin: Uncritical trust is my nemesis.
2. Retributive justice in its execution or outcome: To follow the proposed course of action is to invite nemesis.
3. An opponent that cannot be beaten or overcome.
4. One that inflicts retribution or vengeance.
5. Nemesis Greek Mythology The goddess of retributive justice or vengeance.
Have fun!!
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So, is that a "yes" or a "no" on being named the official Nemesis here :) ?
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Trshot I wasn't sure who said it. That's what I said. I am thinking now it was hankdaz or was it you samspoons? I don't think it was larz. But without the forums I can't reference it. It could have been on of many. Wk154 was it you? Trshot based on what we know the new update will be mostly lipstick too.
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Leaving on the ship again now. Can I upload pics here?
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Leaving on the ship again now. Can I upload pics here?
Yes - Bon voyage :) !
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If you have to ask I'll pick door #3. JL stay away from that triangle and definitely don't loose power, a fate worst than death.
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If you have to ask I'll pick door #3.
"Door #3" it is ;D ! JL stay away from that triangle and definitely don't loose power, a fate worst than death.
I'm sure he packs his own bucket and some extra rolls ;) .
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Trshot I wasn't sure who said it. That's what I said. I am thinking now it was hankdaz or was it you samspoons? I don't think it was larz. But without the forums I can't reference it. It could have been on of many. Wk154 was it you? Trshot based on what we know the new update will be mostly lipstick too.
I can't remember who the "lipstick' comment was from but it weren't me 8)
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Trshot I wasn't sure who said it. That's what I said. I am thinking now it was hankdaz or was it you samspoons? I don't think it was larz. But without the forums I can't reference it. It could have been on of many. Wk154 was it you? Trshot based on what we know the new update will be mostly lipstick too.
I can't remember who the "lipstick' comment was from but it weren't me 8)
Sam, it was I who made mention to the lipstick, JL was referring to something else in his post... 8)
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Trshot I wasn't sure who said it. That's what I said. I am thinking now it was hankdaz or was it you samspoons? I don't think it was larz. But without the forums I can't reference it. It could have been on of many. Wk154 was it you? Trshot based on what we know the new update will be mostly lipstick too.
JL, I'm pretty sure it was Hank as well....have fun on the boat, I hope it's not a Carnival liner! If so, I may recant wanting to play drums with you!! :eek:
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Very surprised, I really thought we would have the new app by now. I guess as its Easter the chances of getting it this week are very, very slim. It's not that I'm angry, I'm still very happy with the desk; even if there was no promise of 1.4 I would of still got the desk,but when you know its there waiting in the wings thinking that everyday that this could be the one it makes me a little frustrated.!
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Very surprised, I really thought we would have the new app by now. I guess as its Easter the chances of getting it this week are very, very slim. It's not that I'm angry, I'm still very happy with the desk; even if there was no promise of 1.4 I would of still got the desk,but when you know its there waiting in the wings thinking that everyday that this could be the one it makes me a little frustrated.!
I'll bet you a pint that it hits today or tomorrow :) .
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Fab..... Will you cover my airfare as well...! Lol
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Very surprised, I really thought we would have the new app by now. I guess as its Easter the chances of getting it this week are very, very slim. It's not that I'm angry, I'm still very happy with the desk; even if there was no promise of 1.4 I would of still got the desk,but when you know its there waiting in the wings thinking that everyday that this could be the one it makes me a little frustrated.!
I'll bet you a pint that it hits today or tomorrow :) .
RR, that's a bet you should know NOT to make givin Mackies track record! :facepalm:
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RR, that's a bet you should know NOT to make givin Mackies track record! :facepalm:
Best or worse case I'll be sharing a beer with a fellow DL1608 owner :). In any case I choose to have a couple days of optimism going into this weekend :) .
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I'm not holding my breath (though I have a gig next Friday when the 'My Fader" app would be solid gold) ::)
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I like my pints icy cold RR, the clocks ticking !.... I hope that one day our paths do cross, you seem like a sound bloke and much appreciated for setting this forum up...
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What? You live in the UK and drink cold beer? Another cherished stereotype - shattered!
I'm also an optimist and I believe that at this very minute, Mackie engineers are busting their asses just so that RR does not lose this bet.
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I like my pints icy cold RR, the clocks ticking !
Did you Brits finally discover refrigeration :eek: ?
EDIT> HaHa, Kevin beat me to it :lol: .
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No mate, the weather we're having in Manchester at the moment we just leave the beer outside :lol:
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:lol:Lol! The chances of 1.4 appearing today are so slim, that if it does I will fly over there, get my arse out in Walmart and let you stick a cocktail stick, with a little Union Jack flag on it , into one of my refrigerated rosie red bum cheeks!!! :lol:
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What? You live in the UK and drink cold beer? Another cherished stereotype - shattered!
I'm also an optimist and I believe that at this very minute, Mackie engineers are busting their asses just so that RR does not lose this bet.
Yes Kevin, it's a myth! They drink their Speckled Hen and everything else cold!!!! Not to mention there is killer Indan food there too!
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:lol:Lol! The chances of 1.4 appearing today are so slim, that if it does I will fly over there, get my arse out in Walmart and let you stick a cocktail stick, with a little Union Jack flag on it , into one of my refrigerated rosie red bum cheeks!!!
OK - if any Mackoids are lurking and reading this, are you going to take that lying down? Just release whatever you've got! At this point I dont care if its buggy as all hell. I want to see this. I'll figure out how to back up to 1.3 later.
BTW - its still only noon on the West Coast, so still plenty of time.
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I'll get moisturising just incase!
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Well, well, well..... Looks like my arse will be 'coming soon' to a Walmart near you....NOT! .. Check out the Mackie Facebook page and get pulling those pints . ( although some good news for Dl 1608 uses and Walmart alike ) :-)
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looks to me like RR called it
I'll bet you a pint that it hits today or tomorrow
From the facebook page:
My Fader v1.0 and Master Fader v1.4 are completely wrapped up and awaiting App Store approval. Should have release news soon. Thanks everyone for hanging in there. I hesitate to say it, but we are already knee-deep in v1.5 stuff and you guys are going to be very excited. Finally time to hit some of the major things you have been asking for!
Its time to appeal to any Apple employee lurkers reading this forum - You guys need to expedite this. RR still has 5 hours for you to come through. Do you want to make AbbaAgain visit Walmart? Of course you do!
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I don't remember how many days it usually takes Apple to do their thing - especially over Easter it might be maybe Wednesday until we can download it?
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Looking forward to the Show and Snapshots feature being sorted out, but looks like we'll be waiting for 1.5 for anything overly exciting bar the My Fader app.
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Looking forward to the Show and Snapshots feature being sorted out, but looks like we'll be waiting for 1.5 for anything overly exciting bar the My Fader app.
I think it's pretty exciting that they have announced that V1.5 is going to actually have stuff we've requested in it :) ! I've not heard any love from them for my #1 (Nor from Behringer :-\) but I think we'll see my other 4 top five in V1.5 :) :
http://cacophony.aspinock.com/index.php?topic=234.0
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I think it's pretty exciting that they have announced that V1.5 is going to actually have stuff we've requested in it :) !
Yes Just like V1.3 from the User Suggestion forum. We'll know about that soon with V1.4. Your an eternal optimist.
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Hey I have a question before I even consider downloading 1.4, whenever it manages to hit:
I noticed that Mackie switched over to what I hope is just an OPTION in that the parametric EQ, compression, and some other stuff are now virtual dials and knobs. Please, oh please, tell me that this is optional and that I can still use the old style (or rather the current) interface that works on movable waveforms and such!
lol This just occurred to me.
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I think it is just an option to have the vintage style compressors and EQs, bit like a pre-set as far as I can tell. Wonder what exciting things will be in 1.5 then if they are listening to us? I would like linked faders and to hide un-used channels, perhaps a maters page? Someone's suggestion of the RTA tool built in would be an absolute god-send with ringing out monitors.
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Hey I have a question before I even consider downloading 1.4, whenever it manages to hit:
I noticed that Mackie switched over to what I hope is just an OPTION in that the parametric EQ, compression, and some other stuff are now virtual dials and knobs. Please, oh please, tell me that this is optional and that I can still use the old style (or rather the current) interface that works on movable waveforms and such!
Yes, the default is still the "current" style which is now called "Modern" vs "Vintage" :) .
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But seriously folks ...
Mackie says it has released My Fader v1.0 and Master Fader v1.4 to Apple via Facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/Mackie?fref=ts (http://www.facebook.com/Mackie?fref=ts)
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Too bad they didn't post the release notes yet. Would be nice to read about ahead of time.
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Looks like Apple is running about 6 days to approve an app so maybe we'll see V1.4 on Thursday?
http://reviewtimes.shinydevelopment.com/
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I have been using the dl for a while now and it does most of what I need. But there are limitations that are just not acceptable. Having compression in my monitors makes using compression a no go. Especially on a larger stage. It does not look like they have any plans to address this issue. If they did someone would have said something. There is just not enough processing power to handle this.
As I said on the old forum - I'm a bit of a DSP programmer myself (and EE) and moving the tap point for the monitor sends will not require any additional processing power at all. It will require a bit more code to make it "switchable" and additional settings in the app but it should be fairly trivial assuming the code is "properly" structured. It should be just a matter of changing a pointer :) .
...and then you need to work out how to save that change to a Snapshot and Show and then sync that change across all linked iPads. Then it needs to be tested to make sure it hasn't changed any saved snapshots or Shows from the previous versions. And I'm sure I've missed some things. Not quite so simple now :-).
Mike.
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Not quite so simple now
Conceptually trivial doesnt necessarily mean trivial to implement - but moving the aux send tap point should not tax the DSP at all, even if done on a per-channel basis. Might tax Mackie's programmers a bit, depending on how well this lines up with either the existing code architecture or the structural changes they are making for 1.5
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...and then you need to work out how to save that change to a Snapshot and Show and then sync that change across all linked iPads. Then it needs to be tested to make sure it hasn't changed any saved snapshots or Shows from the previous versions. And I'm sure I've missed some things. Not quite so simple now :-).
Actually if done correctly Shows are just an array of structures and you just add more to the end and it should all "just work". Obviously if you don't have any "extra space" in your structures (I like to leave some just for this) you'll have to run a "run once" conversion routine but those are pretty straightforward. I have a product that uses a similar mechanism to store presets and it really is that simple :) .
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OK, maybe it will be May....
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Realistically, it is no closer to release or they would have the docs updated to reflect the change that could (allegedly) hit the iPad at any moment. At this point, if it doesn't hit today, I will have to wait to update until after the weekend. I am not going to risk a complete redo.
http://www.mackie.com/products/dlseries/specs/
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RR,
Glad to see someone has a forum back up. It's funny how Mackie stated they released 1.4 to Apple for AppStore approval last Friday (3/29). I'm on the beta team for an app called OnSong. I'll tell you, it doesn't take 3-4 days to get approval. Unfortunately, another stall tactic by Mackie ::)
Gio
Stefani Entertainment
"We Bring Good Music to Life"
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Realistically, it is no closer to release or they would have the docs updated to reflect the change that could (allegedly) hit the iPad at any moment. At this point, if it doesn't hit today, I will have to wait to update until after the weekend. I am not going to risk a complete redo.
If it hits tomorrow I'll load it up and let all you all know if I have any problems - that should be enough time for you to upgrade from a Friday night show? I'm sure they'll be a few others here loading it as soon as it hits the app store too :) .
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RR, Glad to see someone has a forum back up. It's funny how Mackie stated they released 1.4 to Apple for AppStore approval last Friday (3/29). I'm on the beta team for an app called OnSong. I'll tell you, it doesn't take 3-4 days to get approval. Unfortunately, another stall tactic by Mackie ::)
Hey, glad you could make it to the "party" :D.
According to this it averages 6 days and I suspect the Easter holiday might push that out a day or two more :( :
http://reviewtimes.shinydevelopment.com
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OK, well according to your link, we won't see the iPad app till next Monday.
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RR, Glad to see someone has a forum back up. It's funny how Mackie stated they released 1.4 to Apple for AppStore approval last Friday (3/29). I'm on the beta team for an app called OnSong. I'll tell you, it doesn't take 3-4 days to get approval. Unfortunately, another stall tactic by Mackie ::)
Hey, glad you could make it to the "party" :D.
According to this it averages 6 days and I suspect the Easter holiday might push that out a day or two more :( :
http://reviewtimes.shinydevelopment.com
RR, a day late and a dollar short ;D. Glad I'm part of the party!! Thanks for getting the forum up. Jason (OnSong) must have the luck of the draw. I always get a notification from him once the regression testing has been done that he's releasing to Apple and it's never been more than 2 days tops. That's okay, we've waited this long, what's another couple of days. I've got a gig tomorrow and Friday, but probably better I play with it in the studio before going live, eh?
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OK, well according to your link, we won't see the iPad app till next Monday.
Actually those are calendar days, not business days so there's a chance we'll see it tomorrow :) unless Easter pushes it to Friday :( . Also I think once approved Mackie still has to push the "go" button - dunno if they've finished the docs for it yet or not :-\ . Is there something specific in it you need?
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My exact feeling Gio.. I too have shows tomorrow and Friday. I never take a new instrument to a gig without working with it first at home.
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RR, you must be on the beta program if you aren't the least bit anxious to see some confirmation of features and workflow beyond the little blurb they posted a few months ago on the old forum. The rest of us are in the dark as to exactly what has changed or been modified, besides new compressors etc...
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RR, you must be on the beta program if you aren't the least bit anxious to see some confirmation of features and workflow beyond the little blurb they posted a few months ago on the old forum. The rest of us are in the dark as to exactly what has changed or been modified, besides new compressors etc...
Aside from MyFader I don't see anything of much interest to me. It would be nice if icons are saved but not a big deal. Even with MyFader I have yet to have a band show up early enough to have time to mess with IEM's although a couple lead singers have requested I bring one of mine along so they can try it out. My poor man's Micro Wedge clones (coaxial monitors, the real thing are hella expensive http://www.brandxav.com/eaw-mw10-black ) are better than most so that usually solves any previous problems they were having with hearing themselves anyways. I do have the iPad Mini to loan them if I ever do use the IEM so even MyFader isn't that important to me.
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RR, you must be on the beta program if you aren't the least bit anxious to see some confirmation of features and workflow beyond the little blurb they posted a few months ago on the old forum. The rest of us are in the dark as to exactly what has changed or been modified, besides new compressors etc...
Aside from MyFader I don't see anything of much interest to me. It would be nice if icons are saved but not a big deal. Even with MyFader I have yet to have a band show up early enough to have time to mess with IEM's although a couple lead singers have requested I bring one of mine along so they can try it out. My poor man's Micro Wedge clones (coaxial monitors, the real thing are hella expensive http://www.brandxav.com/eaw-mw10-black ) are better than most so that usually solves any previous problems they were having with hearing themselves anyways. I do have the iPad Mini to loan them if I ever do use the IEM so even MyFader isn't that important to me.
RR, One of the biggest things I'm looking forward to is the way they handled saving of Shows/Snapshots. Most users wouldn't see this issue when dealing with 1 iPad, but I use 2. One docked and the other remote. I always end up with duplicate, triplicate shows on both devices since they are device dependent. Also, icons are saved amongst devices now. Ben showed me quite a bit regarding these improvements at the NAMM show. The Vintage EQ, etc isn't really important to me. I still like the surgical approach (4-band EQ, etc). That is what I'm use to on my DAW (Sonar X2). I was told that 1.4 underneath the hood is a major redesign so they can implement some of the other features we want to see in versions past 1.4 (i.e. channel linking, elimination of unused channels, etc, etc.).
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I also use two iPads so I just got used to jumping through the hoops necessary to keep them in sync. If they improved this in V1.4 I have something else to look forward to :) ! I haven't yet created a FAQ about how the whole snapshot/show saving thing works now - guess I'll hold off until V1.4 to do that :) .
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I also use two iPads so I just got used to jumping through the hoops necessary to keep them in sync. If they improved this in V1.4 I have something else to look forward to :) ! I haven't yet created a FAQ about how the whole snapshot/show saving thing works now - guess I'll hold off until V1.4 to do that :) .
You'll like what they've done. If I remember right, 1.4 will also display what show is loaded. I use Camtasia Studio 8 to do IT instructional videos. I'd like to do something with an instructional video on Master Fader. We should collaborate on your FAQ and incorporate that into a video to post on this forum. What do you think?
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I also use two iPads so I just got used to jumping through the hoops necessary to keep them in sync. If they improved this in V1.4 I have something else to look forward to :) ! I haven't yet created a FAQ about how the whole snapshot/show saving thing works now - guess I'll hold off until V1.4 to do that :) .
You'll like what they've done. If I remember right, 1.4 will also display what show is loaded. I use Camtasia Studio 8 to do IT instructional videos. I'd like to do something with an instructional video on Master Fader. We should collaborate on your FAQ and incorporate that into a video to post on this forum. What do you think?
All the FAQs are open to comment now. Feel free to add to them, suggest changes and/or to make video(s) expounding on them :) . Or post a new FAQ :) . I'll try to keep them somewhat organized ;D .
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I also have 2 iPads. Awesome news indeed! See, this is why I am yearning for the updated release notes.
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Any minute now ... wait for it ... wait for it!
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Well........Not today :(
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Not yet, time to blame the aliens? ;)
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Funny, just talked to Mackie support on an unrelated matter. They said they haven't even released 1.4 to Apple for approval yet. Doesn't surprise me. Maybe we will see 1.4 when Behringer releases the iX16 :).
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Well, this isn't the first time that Mackie's tech support has a different story that their official announcements :( .
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Maybe they were just trying to give AbbaAgain (and Walmart) a scare
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Both with Apple right now. Well...actually...one is ready and planned for release very soon. I work hand-in-hand (not literally) with Ben and can assure you this is the case. Support is getting an update today on this topic. As far as watching the app store...if you have gigs this weekend you will probably be very happy. Or, coming soon. Whichever you prefer. :)
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So excited .. Just did a little bit of weeee!
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Both with Apple right now. Well...actually...one is ready and planned for release very soon. I work hand-in-hand (not literally) with Ben and can assure you this is the case. Support is getting an update today on this topic. As far as watching the app store...if you have gigs this weekend you will probably be very happy. Or, coming soon. Whichever you prefer. :)
Okay Mackie person, are they both with with Apple or what? or which one is "ready and planned for release very soon" That is a very ambiguous message. Forgive me if it gives me a feeling of deja-vu.
Last week you had this "My Fader v1.0 and Master Fader v1.4 are completely wrapped up and awaiting App Store approval. Should have release news soon. Thanks everyone for hanging in there. I hesitate to say it, but we are already knee-deep in v1.5 stuff and you guys are going to be very excited. Finally time to hit some of the major things you have been asking for!"
Do I assume that at least one of the apps is NOT with Apple as we speak?
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I believe what Mackie said was that one app has already been approved by Apple. It is my understanding that Apple doesn't automatically make an app "live" in the appstore when it is approved - Mackie still has to push the "go" button on it. I suppose they could release the "Master Fader" app first?
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Both are with Apple. One (Master Fader v1.4) is ready to go and we will be releasing soon. The plan is to release during the day tomorrow as long as everything is running smoothly here at the office. My Fader, being a brand new app to the store is taking longer than expected, but is feature complete and simply waiting approval. I suppose I could have just posted directly on your forum, but this way more users will have access to that info. Be patient in the morning since we are west coast and have to time some web changes and communications.
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Yep, well I'm glad that I left the iPads home today. I have a show to do tonight and would have been tempted to load it up. A potential catastrophe. Tomorrow will be upgrade day. After running open mic last night I gotta say that the workflow to navigate is a nightmare right now. As familiar as I am with all the screens, I was busting my ass last night to get back and forth between reverb/delay settings and the main mixer screen. Tell you what would be REALLY cool (for me at least) would be a way to use MY FADER to access just the effects settings while the iPad is still in the main mixing window. That would be a useful tool, again "for me".
Master effects mute and "top level" tap tempo button have suddenly crept into my top 5 although I think I could still get away with using the existing fx mute buttons.
Once again, I hit the eq accidentally while trying to mute and vice versa.
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Master Fader V1.4 Just Hit The AppStore! :) :) :)
https://itunes.apple.com/hk/app/mackie-master-fader/id511500747
I'm closing this thread now and we can talk about V1.4 here:
http://cacophony.aspinock.com/index.php?topic=257.0