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Title: New Mackie Crap
Post by: Greg C. on August 06, 2013, 09:10:30 PM
Ok, I don't really know if it's crap. Really, I meant "stuff".

New SRM speakers:

http://www.mackie.com/enews/products/2013/08/mackie-extends-srm-line-with-addition-of-pro-grade-1600w-high-definition-loudspeakers/

These probably sound better than the old SRM450s I have, but I wonder if they're as reliable. One thing I've learned is to never buy first generation Mackie speakers because they first runs always seem to have major issues. I suspect the "1.4" titanium HF" is a 1.4" diaphragm and not throat which mean poor low mid output from the horn. That translates to a crossover point that's too high, especially when using a 15" woofer.

Next up - tired, revamped, but industry standard mixers:

http://www.mackie.com/enews/products/2013/08/new-mackie-vlz4-mixers-now-with-onyx-mic-pres/
Title: Re: New Mackie Crap
Post by: Greg C. on August 07, 2013, 03:06:15 PM
Ok, the new product pages are up. the compression drivers in the New SRM550 and 650 are a 1" diaphragm with a 1.4" exit horn. Totally backward! The horn exit should always be smaller than the diaphragm, otherwise you don't have any compression and therefore hardly any gain added by the horn! The older SRM450 used a 1.75" diaphragm with a 1" Exit which proportionally is more correct. With a 1.4" exit, they should be using a  2.5" or larger diaphragm. Crossover point of 3kHz, that's pretty high. Strange...
Title: Re: New Mackie Crap
Post by: RoadRanger on August 07, 2013, 05:56:35 PM
It's pretty common for spec sheets and manuals to be FUBAR these days x( :facepalm: .
Title: Re: New Mackie Crap
Post by: Greg C. on August 08, 2013, 12:18:50 AM
Well, I'd ask the question on the Mackie forum, but...
Title: Re: New Mackie Crap
Post by: WK154 on August 08, 2013, 06:10:40 PM
The only time I recollect Mackie changing the 1604 design is when the parts went out of production and they were forced to find substitutes. This time it sound more like bean-counter motivation. Let's make one preamp so we can buy in greater bulk and fatten the pig. Now for the good part replace the working quality power-supply with the one that fails and we only replace it when we have the parts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MKBT3ghN7g
Hope that they also supply the hair dryer.
 
Title: Re: New Mackie Crap
Post by: RoadRanger on August 08, 2013, 06:31:54 PM
^ That's pretty whack!  x(
Title: Re: New Mackie Crap
Post by: Greg C. on August 08, 2013, 06:40:20 PM
Not a bit surprised.
Title: Re: New Mackie Crap
Post by: WK154 on August 10, 2013, 03:40:44 AM
I've been watching the resale market for DL's and noticed that major dealers are selling DL's used. This is unusual. Is there a message in this?
Title: Re: New Mackie Crap
Post by: RoadRanger on August 10, 2013, 03:48:57 AM
I've been watching the resale market for DL's and noticed that major dealers are selling DL's used.
Link?
Title: Re: New Mackie Crap
Post by: WK154 on August 10, 2013, 04:16:59 AM
Guitar Center, Eightstreetmusic , Proaudiostar etc. just to name a few.
Title: Re: New Mackie Crap
Post by: RoadRanger on August 10, 2013, 02:41:11 PM
Guitar Center, Eightstreetmusic , Proaudiostar etc. just to name a few.
I looked on all three sites, no joy? I have seen the occasional restock - that's unsurprising considering those who find it above their ability to run :facepalm: or that own an iPad 4. None of the online retailers carefully point out that you can't dock an iPad 4 AFAIK :(.
Title: Re: New Mackie Crap
Post by: WK154 on August 10, 2013, 06:10:07 PM
They sell them thru ebay not on their web site. This has been over 2 month time some sold since.
Title: Re: New Mackie Crap
Post by: RoadRanger on August 10, 2013, 06:13:37 PM
OK, here's one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/300946506291
Title: Re: New Mackie Crap
Post by: WK154 on August 10, 2013, 08:15:51 PM
You missed the point. Why this trend????? Nothing to do with links. I'm sure you can do your own research.