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Unofficial Mackie User Forums => DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers => Topic started by: Jerrylee on January 24, 2014, 01:37:17 AM
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Mackie said 1.5 million shows mixed on dl1608. They are so full of shit. They have nothing to show other than a few improvements. One of which was my user suggestion. So they need to lie to start some hype.
Here is 2.1
http://youtu.be/_v38gkrjcyg
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They don't have to be totally right to be in the right spot. If they are even 1/2 right, it's pretty impressive. I'm sorry that some of you are having problems, but I'm betting that most aren't having any problems at all. I'm looking forward to trying mixing from the audience for my Senior's variety show this spring. Will give it a serious work over before accepting that it's a good enough tool for mixing with so many varied mic combinations onstage.
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OK where is the update v2.1 Ben Olswang or as a Mackoid known as "Olswangatang" no more monkey business (BS). You may be able to fool Joe Six-pack but your luck will run out with most rational people.
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Indeed, and no fixes announced for the sync problems introduced with 2.0
Wonder if they'll even remember to fix the mixer button problem.....
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It would be interesting to see how many units have the sync problem. (I don't.) We sometimes talk like everyone is experiencing this and I'm betting most aren't.
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It would be interesting to see how many units have the sync problem. (I don't.) We sometimes talk like everyone is experiencing this and I'm betting most aren't.
I would too but if I'd venture a guess most probably think that it's normal until they have a run in with the white noise problem which off course only happens if you use the iPad playback.
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"as god is my witness, i'll never look at those graphic EQs again!" ;D
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That number might be true, depending on how many DLs have been sold. I know that I mixed at least 220 shows on my DL last year alone, live TV, 8 hours a day. No problems except for the occasional brain lapse on my part.
Not everyone uses the DL for music only. I know some regional theater guys using it and they do shows almost every day and 2 shows on Saturday and Sunday. That adds up fast.
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Mackie said 1.5 million shows mixed on dl1608. They are so full of shit. They have nothing to show other than a few improvements. One of which was my user suggestion. So they need to lie to start some hype.
Here is 2.1
http://youtu.be/_v38gkrjcyg
The figure is quite plausible, do you have any figures to disprove it?
Whilst we're on the subject of hype, what's your take on Behringer's "Buy Now" link for the X18 which leads nowhere?
The X18 looks great too, but when will we see it, if ever? Remember the X16, that was total hype!
BTW, I thought you'd be upbeat and praising Mackie for using your suggestion?
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That number might be true, depending on how many DLs have been sold. I know that I mixed at least 220 shows on my DL last year alone, live TV, 8 hours a day. No problems except for the occasional brain lapse on my part.
Not everyone uses the DL for music only. I know some regional theater guys using it and they do shows almost every day and 2 shows on Saturday and Sunday. That adds up fast.
Agreed, I use it occasionally for shows, but daily as an interface for Skype and lesson videos, to add compression & EQ to my voice. Other than the times I tried & failed at recording shows it has been rock-solid.
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Well for me as the typical garage band musician that plays ow 2-3 times a month and has to sound from stage this is the finest system I've had the privileged of using. :)
I will be polite and bite my tongue at what i want to say to a few of you and just mention the door is over there. :police:
CP
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Well for me as the typical garage band musician that plays ow 2-3 times a month and has to sound from stage this is the finest system I've had the privileged of using. :)
I will be polite and bite my tongue at what i want to say to a few of you and just mention the door is over there. :police:
CP
Nicely said ;)
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Musicman that's because it is the finest mixer YOU have ever had. Doesn't mean it's the finest mixer out there.
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I'm pretty darn sure NOBODY has declared this the "finest mixer out there" (well, beyond Mackie's marketing moments)
It's certainly the finest 16 channel mixer I've ever worked with, but I'd probably state that differently if I'd used the Soundcraft Expression 1 instead of the Expression3 I've worked with ;)
And while I'm envious of the new kids on the block (QSC & Bhoringer) I'm not currently in the market, and I'm at peace with the limitations of the DL1608. No multi-track recording? That's fine, I have dozens of previous recordings from the Onyx Firewire days that I've never gone through. Someone wants a recording of the show, it's a board-mix recording, I can sync it up with your room mics later if you feel like paying me.
The new stuff they're introducing with "X32 2.0" is nifty, and I understand why people would choose something from that series (and would probably consider an X18 if I was in the market right now - but would likely go with the QSC option). I just got gifted a Behringer Ultra-CurevePro 8024 digital EQ and had a good time reading the manual this week - might even haul it out to the gig Saturday just to play with the RTA & see if I like the results.
But I'm still happy that my friend who was looking at the X32 went with the Soundcraft instead, I've already done some of the best live mixes of my life on that thing, and I don't have to tell my friends "but it's really a Midas" over & over...
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BenO has some serious "jazz hands" issues on camera.
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Parametrics and delays on the outputs. Cool.
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I'm pretty darn sure NOBODY has declared this the "finest mixer out there" (well, beyond Mackie's marketing moments)
Thank you :thu:
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I'm pretty darn sure NOBODY has declared this the "finest mixer out there" (well, beyond Mackie's marketing moments)
Thank you :thu:
I am in 100% total aggreeance. NOBODY has. And nobody should. Duh.
But my point was clear in my earlier post. And apparently, with you attempt at sarcasm cyberhippy, you have validated my point.
FYI, up to this point the dl1608 is the finest mixer I have ever used. My point still remains it's not the finest out there. And still NOBODY has said that. I never said anyone did.
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I replaced a fully functional MixWiz. Been using that for the last 6 years and it's been solid, so the ipad remote capability and show saving functions were what sold me on the DL. I don't think it has been a mistake and without regard to what anyone else makes, the DL is the mixer I'm going to be depending upon for the next 5 years. (Maybe longer.) I'm looking forward to the improvements that Mackie is planning for Master Fader. If they ever decide to put Master Fader aside, I would hope that they would open up its development to us. (A lot of us have had some programming over many years. In my case, Pascal, PL1, Assembler, Basic Fortran, RPG)
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wyndd the dl as is, is a great mixer. there are only a couple reasons i am bailing on it. 1) i personally have gigs that i need more channels. i have made due for many years with 16. there have been some gigs where i needed more but made due. but i really could have used a few extra. 2) the idea of programable gains to me is now huge. the main reason for this is that i have been putting the dl on the stage. typically near the drums. and it can be hell setting gains. if it wasn't for the wireless mixing i would put the board somewhere else. possibly even with a snake. but my idea of this kind of mixing was to use the mixer as a stage box. with my new rack i can do this. i can plug everything in and walk away before there is a sound on stage. the x18 can do this too. i debated on that one, but the wait would be to long and i really want the extra channels.
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I can see all that. I also own an Alesis Multimix 16 for recording 16 channels and I use it from time to time for an additional mixer. It's got 8 full mic channels and 4 stereo channels. I can make any of this work, but it's rare for me to need more than 16 channels and with 16 channels I usually have a few that I don't need. I don't want to upgrade my system. (I'm 60 and how many more years can I do this?) I am lightening the equipment and shrinking by getting rid of my larger stuff. (Probably keep my Leslies, my Kustom 250 guitar amp and a decent bass amp. But the Altec Lansing horns and mids need to go.) My reduction has resulted in a full PA system that weighs less than 250 pounds. (And 100 pounds of that is the mixing stack. I can probably do better there.)