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Title: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Rockit on November 22, 2014, 06:31:35 AM
  Previously I was able to play songs from iTunes using the Master Fader 2 app and Ipad2 away from the DL1608 unit by, while docked, connecting to my Airport Express created network,with cables going back from the Airport into CH 15/16, which(combined) then could be used the same as any other channel in the mix.

   This was achieved by first being connected to my network through the iPad WIFI menu,playing the song in iTunes, going back to the Master Fader app(the song would be playing in the iPad channel on MF2), flicking up the hidden panel at the bottom of the iPad screen, to reveal the Airplay option, selecting my network as the Airplay choice and this would, once the iPad was removed from the dock, route the music playing into CH15/16. I previously had two options in Airplay, iPad and my network.

    Once I installed Master Fader 3 and new firmware update, the above process no longer works.
 After many hours trying, including re-setting the Express back to factory settings and re-creating my network, deleting the MF 3 app from iPad and re-installling, all I get as an Airplay option during the above process is "Mackie DL1608"- my network is not visible. Now, when I disconnect from the dock, the music and all other WIFI functions( mixing etc) no longer work- it is not connected to any network.

    The only workaround I have found for this is to shut down the MF 3 app, go to iTunes, start a song playing, flick up the Airplay app and my network is visible again. After selecting it, I then open MF 3, iTunes is playing through the iPad channel, disconnect the iPad from dock and the music still plays as it did previously in MF 2.

It seems that with MF 3 open, my WIFI network is not available as an option to choose in Airplay, but when MF 3 is closed it is.
When I apply the above workaround, if, in MF3 I check the Airplay options, my network has re-appeared, but sometimes( not always) when re-docking and undocking the iPad the WIFI functions shut down, and I am left with "Mackie DL1608" as the only Airplay option.

 My iPad2 software is 8.1.1,
Airport Express(2013 model) has latest firmware,
and using latest version of Master Fader 3 and console firmware.

Anyone else with an Airport Express experience these issues or have a solution?
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Keyboard Magic on November 22, 2014, 09:17:44 PM
A Big Welcome to the Forum!!!!

Sorry to hear you have an issue with MF3 and the DL1608. I'm not on MF3 yet and rely on AirPlay for Walk in and Out music. I have one iPad 2 on MF3 (haven't docked it to the DL), the other on MF 2.1.1. It's a good bet that this is another software bug in MF3 to be ironed out. It may be a good idea to call or email Mackie support with this issue. They will be very interested to hear about it and may have a solution for you.

As WK mentioned in another post, MF3 is a public beta. It's unbelievable that you have to go through that tedious process everytime you have to use AirPlay. If you have another iPad with MF 2.1.1, I think you can downgrade the DL to the previous firmware. I apologize for not having a better solution for you. I really understand your frustration. Contact Mackie They are very helpful. I hope you get this straightened out soon.  :)
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Rockit on November 22, 2014, 09:33:15 PM
Thanks for the reply. I emailed Mackie the same info- when I get a reply/solution from them, I'll post it here.
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Keyboard Magic on November 22, 2014, 10:16:06 PM
Excellent! I've found them to be very good and helpful.  :thu: ;)
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Kev tyler on November 24, 2014, 09:37:58 AM
As I often say, it was madness to create a product for iPad that ignored it's inherent playback capability, how can they continue to ignore the fact that bands and singers and everyone else plays music from their pads, and might want some transport controls and access to the playlists built in to the master fader application?

Kev
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Rockit on November 24, 2014, 10:18:10 AM
It does seem counter-intuitive to have a dedicated channel for iPad, yet you need to go outside of Master Fader to at the very least, stop/start whatever is playing through that channel. I usually try to bring in a break song at the precise time the band stops playing, which means you have to juggle fading out/muting the band with starting the break song- leaving the app and going to iTunes or flick up the hidden bottom panel, which you still don't have access to MF at the same time as this over-rides the MF app. Of course you can always use the fader to fade the song in,but then you are not at the start of it.
Maybe it is a limitation of the multi function of the iPad to be able to have 2 apps integrate with each other?
 Still waiting for a reply from Mackie. :(
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Kev tyler on November 24, 2014, 10:40:38 AM
I doubt it's a limitation, I just think it's a failure to acknowledge what the end user actually wants.



Look at the advice the industry offers when you complain about the loss of the 20 dollar fx  mute footswitch, buy a 2000 dollar Mac and pro tools,  or buy a huge midi foot pedal the size of a car, buy buy buy.........

 :)
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Wynnd on November 24, 2014, 02:45:35 PM
I noticed that OnSong will play songs, I use that for rehearsal of covers.  You can start and stop those songs from within OnSong or Itunes.  The ipad doesn't care.  It would be nice to have at least that capability within MF.  I can work around it, but there is a convenience factor here.  I'd place the controls on the recording screen.  Though for those who use click tracks, that might be better on the home screen where it's reachable at any time.  (How do they play in lock step with a click track?  Gotta be quite a skill.) Hopefully Mackie will consider adding this to their next version of Master Fader.
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: RoadRanger on November 24, 2014, 05:41:49 PM
While I'd love that too I don't think any other digital mixer's app has it and it's probably more important for Mackie to catch up on the features the others have before worrying too much about new features...
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Kev tyler on November 24, 2014, 08:04:26 PM
I think the qsc thing has a transport control

 :)
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: RoadRanger on November 24, 2014, 08:13:02 PM
I think the qsc thing has a transport control :)
Some can play back what they recorded but I've not seen one that can play back break music MP3 playlists? I can't use the Mackie record function because my iPad only has 16GB so not enough free space to record in uncompressed WAV - so I use Voice Record Pro which can also play back as well as export to most clouds 8). I wish Mackie would just pay that guy his $1 per copy for integration rights and dump their own code :thu:.
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: James91104 on November 24, 2014, 09:36:28 PM
While I'd love that too I don't think any other digital mixer's app has it and it's probably more important for Mackie to catch up on the features the others have before worrying too much about new features...

Roland M-200i Remote has transport control
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Kev tyler on November 25, 2014, 09:46:36 AM
Hi road ranger

I think the sm pro has an audio in via stick, I am pretty sure the transport is available for that, I have deleted the link to the trial software so can't be 100 percent.

I think there are some really good app producers around, set list maker is absolutely brilliant, as is one track and pauser pro, the companies as suggested should give these guys a job,

In the future, I will not be buying any product that does not support the tracks contained on the pad or on an external drive unless it's in the silly price bracket of sm pro and behringer.

Having to minimize the app to select a song during a gig, bloody stupid.
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Keyboard Magic on November 25, 2014, 08:53:53 PM
Hi road ranger

I think the sm pro has an audio in via stick, I am pretty sure the transport is available for that, I have deleted the link to the trial software so can't be 100 percent.

I think there are some really good app producers around, set list maker is absolutely brilliant, as is one track and pauser pro, the companies as suggested should give these guys a job,

In the future, I will not be buying any product that does not support the tracks contained on the pad or on an external drive unless it's in the silly price bracket of sm pro and behringer.

Having to minimize the app to select a song during a gig, bloody stupid.

I was researching the Line 6 M20D and here is a line from their spec page: "◦2 digital streaming inputs direct from computer, USB drive or SD card"

Didn't say anything about transport controls, but I saw and heard one playing audio tracks with an SD card at my local music store awhile back. Gotta have something to load and to start "play" from the card? It retails for about $1650 here. I know, overpriced, even after they dropped it from over 2 grand. Probably not even worth comparing it with the other contenders?  :)

And Kev... Two footswitch jacks on the top panel too!
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Kev tyler on November 27, 2014, 10:16:03 AM
Two footswitches,

Wow, one for reverb mute, one for next song in the playlist?

The future

 :lol:
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Rdmitch on December 02, 2014, 02:14:20 AM
This whole thing sounds terribly complicated to me. Guess I'm glad I only have to occasionally play some music over the system during breaks.
I'm probably over simpliying it by just sticking my iPod touch in my pocket with 5000 songs on it and connecting it wireless to the apple airport express. I can walk anywhere in the joint and change songs or volume. Seemed like a pretty easy solution.
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Keyboard Magic on December 02, 2014, 02:24:37 AM
This whole thing sounds terribly complicated to me. Guess I'm glad I only have to occasionally play some music over the system during breaks.
I'm probably over simpliying it by just sticking my iPod touch in my pocket with 5000 songs on it and connecting it wireless to the apple airport express. I can walk anywhere in the joint and change songs or volume. Seemed like a pretty easy solution.

Exactly.  :thu: The simplest solution is usually always the best solution.  ;) I always play walk-in and break music that way. Never fails.  :)
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: ijpengelly on December 02, 2014, 06:34:31 AM
I seem to recall from BenO that the feature that is now top of the list for inclusion in the next update is the transport controls for music played from the iPad, so perhaps 3.1 will feature this, rather than having to wait until MF4. Guess it will depend on what gremlins are found that have to be ironed out as a priority.

Unfortunately, I can't contribute to a workaround. I use an MP3 player plugged in with a very long playlist that I leave running in the background and fade in when I need it. I don't have an Apple Airport and don't use iTunes...
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Rockit on December 03, 2014, 12:03:23 PM
OK, finally had a chance to play around with this issue some more- my problem seems to be that when MF3 app is open, my Airport Express network is not visible for use as an Airplay option or to use the iPad2 unplugged from the console. When MF3 is closed, my Air Exp is visible again in Airplay, allowing me to play iTunes or other music playing apps back through the console. But this is useless to me as I need the music routed through MF3 and the iPad usable undocked.
In short, MF3 and my Air Exp don't work together- I can't use MF3 undocked.


got a reply from Mackie saying they tried but couldn't recreate my issue although they used an iPad Mini(not sure what model) but would pass the issue on to Ben and engineering team.

tried deleting the MF3 app again, hard reset on DL1608 console, restarted both- still not working

tried resetting iPad back to factory settings with Restore in iTunes and re-loading the MF3 app- still not working.

tried to restore a previous saved backup(pre-IOS8 and MF3) only to find it didn't have MF2 installed in it- re-installed MF3- still not working

tried turning off my home WIFI network to see if that was interfering- still not working

next step- may have to borrow another iPad from somewhere and load MF3 on it.

had zero issues prior to IOS8 and MF3

will email the above to Mackie again

 Where to now? NFI. Got a major gig Sunday which needs a mobile mixer(iPad) >:(
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Keyboard Magic on December 03, 2014, 02:36:00 PM
OK, finally had a chance to play around with this issue some more- my problem seems to be that when MF3 app is open, my Airport Express network is not visible for use as an Airplay option or to use the iPad2 unplugged from the console. When MF3 is closed, my Air Exp is visible again in Airplay, allowing me to play iTunes or other music playing apps back through the console. But this is useless to me as I need the music routed through MF3 and the iPad usable undocked.
In short, MF3 and my Air Exp don't work together- I can't use MF3 undocked.


got a reply from Mackie saying they tried but couldn't recreate my issue although they used an iPad Mini(not sure what model) but would pass the issue on to Ben and engineering team.

tried deleting the MF3 app again, hard reset on DL1608 console, restarted both- still not working

tried resetting iPad back to factory settings with Restore in iTunes and re-loading the MF3 app- still not working.

tried to restore a previous saved backup(pre-IOS8 and MF3) only to find it didn't have MF2 installed in it- re-installed MF3- still not working

tried turning off my home WIFI network to see if that was interfering- still not working

next step- may have to borrow another iPad from somewhere and load MF3 on it.

had zero issues prior to IOS8 and MF3

will email the above to Mackie again

 Where to now? NFI. Got a major gig Sunday which needs a mobile mixer(iPad) >:(

Oh that sucks! Do you have a backup of MF 2.1.1 in iTunes? You might be able to roll everything back. Fingers crossed. But in the mean time, keep hounding Mackie for a solution. I know this doesn't help much but I do understand how you must be feeling right now. I would be just beside myself at this point. What about where you bought the DL? Any chance they can help somehow?

Remember the forum is here and I think we are all pretty good listeners. It's good to vent.  ;) 
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: WK154 on December 03, 2014, 08:10:35 PM
Seems like the only thing you haven't tried is to reset your Airport-express. It's the DHCP server for your net and also handles airplay. Seem like the likely candidate to me. Is it also up to date on the firmware?
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Wynnd on December 04, 2014, 02:43:06 AM
I've experienced this too.  MF 3.0 wants to connect to apple TV.  (And I don't own one.)  I've got an iphone 4S and just use that for airplay.  (Cause the problem is only on the ipad that's running wifi.)  Because I've had an easy work around, I didn't think much of it.  If it's common, it ought to be addressed.  It's not looking very common.
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Ampli on December 04, 2014, 02:58:29 AM
Seems like the only thing you haven't tried is reset is your Airport-express. It's the DHCP server for your net and also handles airplay. Seem like the likely candidate to me. Is it also up to date on the firmware?

Got the same problem, tryed already to update and reset the express, still only apple tv
Maybe it has something to do that the express isn't connected with internet?
Will try this
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: WK154 on December 04, 2014, 07:21:19 AM
Since MF 3.0 supports fixed IP addresses you might try that. It eliminates the need for a DHCP server. Connection to the Internet won't buy you anything but you should have a green light on your Airport Express or orange depending on model but nothing blinking.
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: WK154 on December 04, 2014, 09:09:52 AM
This is what happens when you tie yourself to a proprietary product such as Air Play. My recommendation would be the alternative Bluetooth players. Caution on that on advertised range.
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Wynnd on December 04, 2014, 12:17:02 PM
Airplay isn't bluetooth.  It's WiFi.  I did run into a place where I had problems with airplay.  But I didn't have any problems running the show from my ipad in the back of the room.  (Mixer onstage.)  Go figure.  I can only guess that it was problems with interference.  (Never occurred anywhere else.  Pre-MF3.0)  Might just have to get myself a frequency analyzer.
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: WK154 on December 04, 2014, 03:50:12 PM
Wynnd :  "Airplay isn't bluetooth.  It's WiFi. " I never said it was, as a matter of fact it's better than WiFi as I stated in other posts. Just have to watch out for the unscrupulous manufacturers that play with the spec. A class 3 is the lowest power requirement that has a range of up to 10 meters so 10.000001 Meters makes it a class 2 and lists as such. ;D Class 2 has a range of up to 30 meters and a class 1 which has the same range as WiFi (100 meters) are the other power levels.  What you would want is a unit that can cover the range you need. This unfortunately is frequently not published so you have to ask and hope you get an honest answer.
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Wynnd on December 04, 2014, 04:47:39 PM
My experience with bluetooth controls and streaming for my hearing aids makes me less willing to depend upon it.  I get frequent drops while carrying my iPad mini.  Not long but upsetting for having spent so much money.
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: WK154 on December 04, 2014, 05:05:03 PM
My experience with bluetooth controls and streaming for my hearing aids makes me less willing to depend upon it.  I get frequent drops while carrying my iPad mini.  Not long but upsetting for having spent so much money.
Take it back have them fix it. At minimum it should be V4.0 Bluetooth for the hearing aid 4.1 would be better. I've had various units (Bluetooth not hearing aids) since day 1 and dropouts at this point other than range should be a thing of the past. Lot's of reports of users switching off Airplay for just that reason and picking up Bluetooth.
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Wynnd on December 04, 2014, 06:48:07 PM
Take back the hearing aids?  ($5K for the pair.) Will look into it. 
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Kevin on December 08, 2014, 04:53:20 PM
I updated to MF3 over the weekend and it looks like MF3 broke Airplay. I have the same issue as Rockit and Ampli - when MF3 is running, none of my apps which use Airplay can see the Airport Express.

Rockit - Did Mackie tech support get back to you yet about this? I dont see how they could be having any problems reproducing this. It fails consistently for me and sounds like this is the case for others as well.

Forum members - is there anyone out there who was using Airplay with MF2 and DIDNT have it break when going to MF3 ???

This really sucks. I can use my phone to play break music via Airplay, so I'm not dead in the water, but now I have to remember to put my phone in airplane mode

The new interface is pretty nice, but I would rather have go back to MF2 and get Airplay back
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Rockit on December 08, 2014, 07:59:11 PM
Hi Kevin, I've had no reply back from Mackie after emailing them again regarding my post on page 2 of this topic. When I have Master Fader 3 open, Airplay  on my Ipad2 with my Airport Express does not work. When I shut down MF3, Airplay on Air Expr returns.
Air Expr doesn't appear to be the problem, as with you, I can play music back into MF3 when docked via Air Exp and input Ch15/16 from my iPhone, and also play music through the Air Exp on the iPad2 when MF3 is closed.
What this means is I can't use MF3 on my iPad 2 undocked. >:(
Also, as others have stated, there is a definite lag in fader adjustment on Ipad2 since the MF3 upgrade.
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Wynnd on December 09, 2014, 02:59:21 AM
There's reference to this issue on another thread on this forum. 
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: tmn126 on December 09, 2014, 05:44:58 PM
Airplay is working with MF3 on my  DL32, although it seems to be a bit slow on the controls from the swipe up menu and I had a couple drop outs on the streaming (I wont use Airplay while gigging).  When I was using the 1608 I used tango remote from my Iphone while the IPAD was docked, it has great controls for on the go playlist updating and the music is not being streamed so even if I get to far from the IPAD the music won't quit.



Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Ampli on December 11, 2014, 06:41:11 AM
Ive got airplay working again after the 8.1.2 update
But be careful first close all backgrond apps
Then open mf3
The open your player and select the airport express
Then open mf3 by double klick the home button and select Mf3


This works for me
Not ideal buts it's a workaround

Looks that mackie includes some line of code that closes all background apps/task or something on first start of mf3
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Kevin on December 11, 2014, 07:17:07 AM
Hmm, I just did the 8.1.2 update and I still dont have airplay.
It doesnt matter which I open first, if MF3 is open, airplay doesnt see the airport express, only the ipad
If I close MF3, then airplay remembers that I was connected to the airport express
MF3 does not even have to be connected and it knocks the airport express out of airplay
I'm running on an ipad 3

Ampli - other than the update, did you change anything else
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Rockit on December 11, 2014, 09:45:34 AM
Did the 8.1.2 update-followed Ampli's instructions- still no airplay options, BUT-(i'm not sure if this has changed since the update) -
if I start up MF3 when docked,
 then undocked the Ipad2,
 hit the "Offline" gearwheel at the top of the app,
 touch the "Wireless" icon option at the bottom of page,
 the gear wheel changes to connected,
 touch the gearwheel to return to fader functions,
I now have wireless functions working-ie-faders controlling the mixer undocked.

Airplay is only showing "iPad" in both MF3 and iTunes(when both apps open together) and songs still won't play from iPad-MF3-to Air Exp.
When MF3 is closed- my Air Expr network returns as an option in Airplay
 Can anyone else duplicate this?
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Ampli on December 11, 2014, 11:28:40 AM
Did give it a try again
I did forget something in the way to get airplay
Click home button twice
Remove all apps incl mf3
Open mf3 connect wireless to the dl
!!double click home button and go to screen with music player

Now open the player and i can connect to the express

If i goto the player by pressing only the home button once  i dont get the expres in the airplay
Good luck
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Kevin on December 11, 2014, 02:56:37 PM
Hmm, I followed your exact instructions Ampli, and still dont get the Airport Express option in Airplay - just the iPad
Same as what Rockit is seeing

Wireless control of the mixer works fine for me. Havent had any problem with that on MF3 (knock on wood)

Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Rockit on December 11, 2014, 03:05:06 PM
Tried as you suggested- double-clicked- and my Airplay network has re-appeared as an option and is connected-BUT-Itunes still won't play music back through the iPad MF3 channel, as it did in MF2.The music shows as playing in iTunes but is not outputting to the MF3 or the iPad speakers.
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Ampli on December 11, 2014, 05:16:09 PM
Thats strange
Do you have and 30 pins or lightning table
I have an ipad2 and 30 pins connector
I tunes plays to the ipad channel without problems
Only the expres airplay was a problem for me
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Kevin on December 11, 2014, 06:16:38 PM
OK, this is interesting ...

I have an iPad3 with 30 pin connector, and if I connect the iPad to the DL's 30 pin connector, now I get both the DL1608 and Airport Express as Airplay options
If I select Airport Express, I can play music through the router and it comes into the DL through channels 15 and 16 as normal.
If I disconnect the iPad from the DL's 30 pin connector, I still have an Airplay connection to the airport express and it will keep playing while MF3 is in use

If I close MF3 and re-open, then I lose the Airport Express as an Airport option, as Ampli reported

I cant get Airport Express to show up as an Airplay option unless the iPad is connected to the DL, but if I do that, Airplay survives the disconnect
This is not ideal, but I can live with it until Mackie fixes it.

Ampli - when you got Airport Express to work, were you by chance connected to the DL?

Rockit - if you connect to the DL, can you get Airplay to work?

edit - Rockit, I just re-read your post and it sounds like you were able to establish Airplay to express while docked - just still not working right for you for some reason. If you start playing iTunes over the Airport Express while the iPad is docked, can you then undock and keep the Airplay connection?
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Ampli on December 11, 2014, 06:58:34 PM
I tested airplay only wireless connected to the dl
If i play music docked i use the iphone, never had problems this way
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Wynnd on December 12, 2014, 01:13:35 AM
Just got done with a political rally.  Had no problems with airplay except when I was more than 100 feet away on the other side of a stone stairway.  (Too weak a signal for streaming without problems.)  Closer worked flawlessly.  MF3.0 ios 8.1.1  ipad 2 docked and ipad mini out in the crowd.  I did have some charging issues with the ipad that started in my car with it's usb port docked.  Think we can consider that an Apple problem.
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: josephhand on December 14, 2014, 07:44:22 PM
I am using the final release of MF3 with the DL32R and have hit the same issue with Airplay. My workaround was to just play the tunes from my phone via Airplay and use my iPad 2 to run MF3. I am also flooding Mackie's support inbox with a request to fix this so I can do it all from one device.
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Wynnd on December 15, 2014, 06:13:13 AM
One channel in itunes channel was barely audible in the main output.  VU meter's showed Itunes channel looking good, stereo centered and the main VU meter showed nearly no signal in the left channel and normal in the right.  I didn't reboot the ipad.  (Rehearsal, not a critical situation.)  For ease of function, I just switched the output to airplay where everything worked normally.    Anyone else had this happen?  First time for me. 
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: RoadRanger on December 15, 2014, 06:19:33 PM
I think we've all seen intermittent weird things that go away when we reboot either the DL or iPad. Can't really report them as bugs since they aren't reproducible and in the heat of "battle" you don't have time to pin it down or even be sure it wasn't operator error :( .

OTOH I've seen reports like this on all the digital mixers I "follow" so the DL is no worse than the competition IMO (and hopefully getting better :) ).

Oh and Wynn make sure the digital trims on the iPad channel are equal - one being down would look just like what you saw. The channel VU is pre-digital trim (for good reason on the analog channels, not-so-much on the iPad channel).
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Wynnd on December 16, 2014, 02:54:42 AM
Will look at the digital trims on the ipad channel.  Thanks for the suggestion.  (Reboot probably would have made it go away.  Will look closer for this weekend.)
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Harpman on December 16, 2014, 05:27:03 AM
Okay, so I'm running 3.0.1 and iOS 8.1.2 on both my docked iPad 3 and remote iPad Air (1st gen).  CH 15/16 linking to the Airport Express.  I don't use iTunes and use Louder Logic.  In Louder Logic was able to select my Airport Express from my remote iPad Air. I can swipe up to display the player transport and Airplay and my Airport Express shows (see attached screen shot).  Am I missing something?




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Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Ampli on December 16, 2014, 09:22:20 AM
To me it looks that they improved the airplay funtion
It show with me quicker also
Do you switch between the apps with single home button click or always with double click
With me that made a big differance?
Title: Re: Airplay, iTunes and Airport Express in 3.0
Post by: Harpman on December 18, 2014, 06:42:04 AM
To me it looks that they improved the airplay funtion
It show with me quicker also
Do you switch between the apps with single home button click or always with double click
With me that made a big differance?

Ampli,

With MF active on the remote iPad, I just swipe up and I have the Airplay controls at my fingertips. Never have to switch between apps (Louder Logic), unless I'm changing playlists, etc. I can start and stop the transport, FF & RW.  There is a small delay before it hits the console, but no big deal for me.


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