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Unofficial Mackie User Forums => DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers => Topic started by: Keyboard Magic on December 02, 2014, 03:53:23 PM
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I apologize of this is not too technical, but please bare (bear) with me? This is for just in case! And only if you find it absolutely necessary!
THIS METHOD MAY NOT WORK FOR EVERYONE, PLEASE DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK
So for anyone that for any reason wants to go back to MF 2.1.1 from 3 you can. The catch is that you should have a backup of MF 2.1.1 in iTunes on your computer first.
I have 2 iPad 2’s. One had MF 3, the other 2.1.1. I had backed up all my apps on the one with 2.1.1 in iTunes on my laptop. I deleted MF 3 on the other iPad. I connected this one to the laptop, opened iTunes and synced both devices. I scrolled to the apps that I had backed up from the other iPad (MF2.1.1). I dragged the MF 2.1.1 app to the iPad’s desktop, waited ‘till they synced once more, disconnected my iPad and viola, there was the app I had just dragged over.
I opened MF and there you are, version 2.1.1 was successfully copied from one iPad to the other. It works perfectly. The only downside is that all my scenes were gone on the “copied to iPad” But they are alive and well on the original iPad with 2.1.1. And as you know once the original iPad is docked in the DL and you connect wirelessly with the other iPad, you are given the choice from where you can use the stored scenes. Select the docked iPad and your scenes are "magically" ;) sent to your “blank scenes” iPad” Now you have your hard earned scenes on both devices.
If you only have one iPad, you will lose your scenes completely, but you can roll back to 2.1.1 if you have to.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS PARTICULAR DL IS STILL ON THE V2.1.1 FIRMWARE
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Thank you RR for making it a FAQ. :thu: :)
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OK, so you can go back on the iPad. Has anyone tried to go back on their DL? That is to say a DL which has been flashed with MF3? Will MF2 flash it back again?
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OK, so you can go back on the iPad. Has anyone tried to go back on their DL? That is to say a DL which has been flashed with MF3? Will MF2 flash it back again?
I presume, what ever version of MF you have, a hard reset should upload the appropriate firmware version to the DL to match the software. Even if you've updated to the new firmware, it's overwritten.
I'm hoping someone with more knowledge than myself will chime in and confirm or deny my claim?
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I haven't tried from MF3, since it's working for me, but I did downgrade DL1608 firmware to 1.4.1 from several 2.n.n versions with no difficulty.
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I haven't tried from MF3, since it's working for me, but I did downgrade DL1608 firmware to 1.4.1 from several 2.n.n versions with no difficulty.
I had a feeling you could, but thank you for confirming it. :thu: :)
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I want to try this path to go back. How do I find my apps on my iPad and then save them to my laptop? i have a macbook pro
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Which version is on your iPad? I could go back because I've archived every version of every app I've ever had. When iTunes updates an app, I pull it out of the trash and stash it. Of course, I'm crazy.
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Thank you for the response. I have an ipad 2 - A 1395
I just updated itunes on my mac and itunes is now syncing with my ipad so that is a good start I hope.
Chris
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I see a my fader 2.0 in my apps that synched over
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I meant what version of Master Fader is on your iPad.
My Fader is for iPhones and iPod Touches. Doesn't work if your DL has already been updated to 3.n.
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Which version is on your iPad? I could go back because I've archived every version of every app I've ever had. When iTunes updates an app, I pull it out of the trash and stash it. Of course, I'm crazy.
Yeah crazy smart! It's a computer like it or not and you have to CYA with all the "new generation programmers" running wild. They haven't learned the basics. Not backing up is crazy.
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I want to try this path to go back. How do I find my apps on my iPad and then save them to my laptop? i have a macbook pro
Did you update via iTunes or on the iPad? If on the iPad did you sync to iTunes since updating? In either case you have probably lost MF2. You can find out easily by going to the apps page in iTunes, right click on the MF icon and "show in finder" the file will be either Master Fader 2.1.1.ipa or Master Fader 3.0.1.ipa. Then just save it in a safe place. To get the DL to reload the firmware from the iPad after you have MF2 back on there boot up the DL with the reset button pressed (tiny hole between the LAN and PSU connectors, use a straightened paper clip). The DL will then install the f/w from the iPad.
Others have posted while I have been typing and musicman7722 has sorted his problem but I'll post this for anybody else wanting to revert.
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Which version is on your iPad? I could go back because I've archived every version of every app I've ever had. When iTunes updates an app, I pull it out of the trash and stash it. Of course, I'm crazy.
Yeah crazy smart! It's a computer like it or not and you have to CYA with all the "new generation programmers" running wild. They haven't learned the basics. Not backing up is crazy.
In the app archive it has 2.0 and I don't have any version actually installed. I did have 3.0 and removed it and I never attached it to the Dl1608. Of course the DL has 2.1.1 on it. Do I have a chance?
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Well i wouldn't say I've sorted anything :( I am no transferring the 2.0 via drop box back to my ipad but I am so over my head here. I fix PC's for a living but can barely turn on my ipad and macbook
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2.0? Really? Have you not updated your apps in a long time?
Moving it with DropBox won't help anything. Only iTunes can install apps on an iDevice without jailbreaking.
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Thank you I was afraid of that.
So when I synced up the ipad to the macbook mg 2 came over. How can I find it on my ipad and reinstall it?
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Which version is on your iPad? I could go back because I've archived every version of every app I've ever had. When iTunes updates an app, I pull it out of the trash and stash it. Of course, I'm crazy.
Yeah crazy smart! It's a computer like it or not and you have to CYA with all the "new generation programmers" running wild. They haven't learned the basics. Not backing up is crazy.
In the app archive it has 2.0 and I don't have any version actually installed. I did have 3.0 and removed it and I never attached it to the Dl1608. Of course the DL has 2.1.1 on it. Do I have a chance?
It shows 3.0
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So when I synced up the ipad to the macbook mg 2 came over. How can I find it on my ipad and reinstall it?
Not quite sure what you're saying or asking. Abbreviations don't work right here, because My Fader and Master Fader are two very different things.
What shows 3.0?
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apologies it shows Master Fader 3.0 in the app store on the ipad but 2.0 came over when I synched with my laptop. I guess I should pour a stiff drink and give up. It looks like I'm screwed and there is just no way out.
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Check in the trash on your macbook. Master Fader 2.1.1.ipa, or any version under 3.
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apologies it shows Master Fader 3.0 in the app store on the ipad but 2.0 came over when I synched with my laptop. I guess I should pour a stiff drink and give up. It looks like I'm screwed and there is just no way out.
It should be quite obvious which version you have on your iPad, then have that drink. ;) The app store has nothing to do with what you have on the iPad and shut auto OFF.
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I don't any loaded on the ipad. i did just give a better look to the version that came over when I synced to the mac and it isn't Master Fader 2.0 it is 1.3 so I am wasting all of your time any way so I apologize for that.
I was wondering if I were to go out and buy a used ipad to download 2.1 on what model would I look for? It's mu understand that if it is to old for 3.0 apple will make 2.1 available? yes - no?
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It is believed that an original iPad running iOS 5 will load the last "2" version. Actually any iPad that still has iOS 5 should also?
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Again thank you all. Merry Christmas to those that celebrate it.
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It is believed that an original iPad running iOS 5 will load the last "2" version. Actually any iPad that still has iOS 5 should also?
Oh, that's clever. I just tried it on my iPad classic. It works.
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Ok last try here, can i roll my ipad back to 5? If so does anybody here know how?
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Nope.
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If you have MF2.something.ipa in your iTunes you should be able to revert, I haven't actually tried it but if you delete MF3 from your iTunes library and then copy the MF2.ipa into the same folder it should load onto your iPad when you sync. It doesn't really matter which version your DL has as it can be persuaded to load the firmware from whichever version the iPad connected is running.
RR, I'm not sure any iPad with iOS5/6 would load MF2, unless you have a 1st gen iPAD, I think Apple would force you to update to iOS8 rather than load an old version of MF. i'M ser.... sorry, I'm seriously considering a jailbreak on my iPad to get out of the Apple straightjacket, I did try it with my old iPod Touch and didn't find it an especially good experience but if I do I'll post my thoughts.
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Ok last try here, can i roll my ipad back to 5? If so does anybody here know how?
Rolling back iOS is damn near impossible (I don't really understand why.......). I do know you need to have stored your "SHSH Blobs" (whatever TF they are...) from your iOS5 install to do so. I suspect if you could borrow a 1st gen iPad and sync it to your iTunes it would have to load MF2 so if you have a mate with one, get him to back it up and let you give it a try.
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Well I am done. Having a pre Christmas vodka and soda, cheers. I think tomorrow I will hook up my ipad, install MF 3 and fire up the DL. Now my next big fear is that everybody says it's a dog and really slow.
I have my new band convinced to all IEM and we start rehearsal in a week all IEM and using the DL. I had promised them they could use their iphones so there is strike one against me. Ho Ho
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I guess you don't have MF2 anywhere, have you looked in your trash folder? I found MF2.1.1.ipa in there on my MacBook Pro (which is the library the main iPad is synced to) and MF1.4.ipa in the trash on the desktop (though I haven't a clue where that came from). I may just try installing MF1.4 just to see if it can be down if I get bored this Christmas.....
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Yes I found 1.3 on the mac in the trash. Fun eh
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1.4 is not bad. That's right before my sync problems started. Little light on features, but very stable.
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Yes I found 1.3 on the mac in the trash. Fun eh
But no MF2? :(
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What's with all this BS mackie needs to fix it. Nothing else.
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No I am SOL. I do have a glimmer of light. My ex wife and I broke up 3 months ago and I had given her a mini which I would take to the gigs as well. It still has 2.1.1 on it under my apple account as well. When she gets back this week she said she might listen to the problem and then decide if she would help or not. i offered to buy her a brand new mini :(
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No I am SOL. I do have a glimmer of light. My ex wife and I broke up 3 months ago and I had given her a mini which I would take to the gigs as well. It still has 2.1.1 on it under my apple account as well. When she gets back this week she said she might listen to the problem and then decide if she would help or not. i offered to buy her a brand new mini :(
I think what you want to do, if you get it back, is to delete Master Fader off your macbook from within itunes. Empty the trash, and then sync the mini. Hopefully, it will ask you if you want to transfer purchases from the mini. If it doesn't, you might have to look into jailbreaking, which is actually pretty easy.
Oh, first, I'd make damned sure that auto-update wasn't on on the mini. I'd turn wifi off first thing.
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Fingers crossed😊
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Turn the WiFi off? I'm assuming only during the attempt to go back to MF 2.x. You could also just forget any networks where you might be able to auto-update. There's a reason that I named my working WiFi network "NoInternetHere" And then there's that pass-phrase.
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Thanks I'd like to think I would have thought of that but who knows :)
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Sorry. Not paying too much attention to the levels of contributors. (Ought to be an app for that. Is easier if there's a face in the avatar.) We do run the gamut of new to digital mixers, to happy but ready to move up. And there is that one other aspect. To do this easily requires some level of Networking familiarity. I was a PC/Network tech and CNA in a previous working life. So I'm fairly comfortable with the WiFi side. (Going back nearly 20 years.) I remember when NIC drivers for laptops and Linux were rare. Not any more. (Do you know what a NIC is? Haven't seen that term used in a while.)
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Got it hey just call me Jon ok - 8)