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Unofficial Mackie User Forums => DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers => Topic started by: musicman7722 on January 24, 2015, 03:48:25 PM
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I have noticed recently that my headphone out will no longer drive headphones. I crank up the volume and can hear something but not at a volume that is usable. Yes I have tried a few sets of headphones as well as 2 types of in ears. There is enough signal to drive my IEM using an insert y cable to mono so I get stereo into the unit (Senn G3) it will also feed my Rolls device as well as Tascam recorder so I'm at a loss. And yes I have the master volume out at unity. x(
Any thoughts?
Chris
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I should mention for the record it is a DL1608
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Tying two outputs together (stereo outputs of the DL) without a more detailed knowledge of the circuits involved will take it's toll, as it seems to have done here. Just because someone makes a input Y cable doesn't mean it's useful, my advise is get rid of it before it causes you more grief. If your DL is under Warranty send it back.
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If it's still under warranty, call Mackie. Sounds like the headphone amp has either fried or there's another problem.
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I am not summing the out together into a mono I am breaking the stereo out into proper left and right mono and then plugging each momo out into my IEM unit in stereo.
How long are they under warranty for? I have had mine almost since their release.
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As I often say the devil is in the details and I took your statement in context to the problem but my bad your using a insert Y which in this case becomes a output Y which of course is fine as long as it can drive the outputs. Warranty is 1 year which makes yours out of Warranty.
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Thank you my friend it is all good and I appreciate you taking the time to talk with me about it :)
I assumed I was well out of warranty. i don't really use the feature so was just checking to see if I had overlooked anything.
Chris
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The headphone subject was covered here some time ago in context with the aux out. I measured the headphone impedance and IIRC it was around 130 ohms, not a great value for quality sound.
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Make sure you have the virtual headphone volume up fully as well as the hardware knob. It's on the QAP at the bottom confusingly labeled as "Monitor" with two sliders unhelpfully labeled "D" (delay, WTF?) and "L" (level). Turn the "L" all the way up - it's stoopid to have it anywhere else AFAIK.
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Make sure you have the virtual headphone volume up fully as well as the hardware knob. It's on the QAP at the bottom confusingly labeled as "Monitor" with two sliders unhelpfully labeled "D" (delay, WTF?) and "L" (level). Turn the "L" all the way up - it's stoopid to have it anywhere else AFAIK.
Yeah that is dumb. Thanks Ron - I didn't realise that it was for the headphones. Who would have thunk!
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two sliders unhelpfully labeled "D" (delay, WTF?)
Time align the headphones with the sound from the PA.
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two sliders unhelpfully labeled "D" (delay, WTF?)
Time align the headphones with the sound from the PA.
Now, if they just had a control to align the whole mixer to the expectations of a working live sound provider we'd be all set ;) . Seriously, is anybody finding the "D" control useful?
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When you're 250 feet out from the stage, it's really confusing to listen to soloed channels that aren't delayed. Not exactly the market this mixer plays in, but it's an interesting feature to have available.
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When you're 250 feet out from the stage, it's really confusing to listen to soloed channels that aren't delayed. Not exactly the market this mixer plays in, but it's an interesting feature to have available.
I use high isolation headphones so not a problem for me :-) . Is anybody really running a headphone line out 250 feet or using a 250 foot snake with their DL1608? I only use the headphones from sidestage myself...
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BTW here's the headphones I use - on sale even :) ! :
http://www.americanmusical.com/weeklydeals.aspx
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Different strokes. I not only don't want isolation when I'm mixing, I don't even use a double muff. I have half of an old Sony wired mono. i don't do loud shows, though.
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Different strokes. I not only don't want isolation when I'm mixing, I don't even use a double muff. I have half of an old Sony wired mono. i don't do loud shows, though.
I don't "mix" on the headphones - and don't know any live sound pros that do. I use them only to solo something in which case it's important to have that isolation to spot weird noises and maybe do some fine EQ adjustment.
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I don't "mix" on the headphones - and don't know any live sound pros that do. I use them only to solo something in which case it's important to have that isolation to spot weird noises and maybe do some fine EQ adjustment.
Same here, except that I don't need the isolation, because my shows aren't loud.
By "when I'm mixing", I meant when I'm not recording. When I'm recording, I want all the isolation I can get.
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BTW here's the headphones I use - on sale even :) ! :
http://www.americanmusical.com/weeklydeals.aspx
I use these, they're phenomenal. http://www.gk-music.com/ultraphones.htm
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BTW here's the headphones I use - on sale even :) ! :
http://www.americanmusical.com/weeklydeals.aspx
I use these, they're phenomenal. http://www.gk-music.com/ultraphones.htm
OOOOh, those are nice indeed!
Just got the Bose QC25 Active Noise cancellation phones. I was using a pair of Vic Firth ones, that practically wrecked my ears, they were so tight. At a long school dance they were great, but ouch time for sure. These ones are very comfortable and protect my old ears. ;)
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The Bose system drives me nuts. It physically hurts me when it's running.
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The Bose system drives me nuts. It physically hurts me when it's running.
Is it the ear cups or the active noise cancelling? But whatever it is, not good for you. :(
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Definitely the active system. Turn it on, instant pain.
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Definitely the active system. Turn it on, instant pain.
You musta had a bad one.
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I fly a lot, and with other techheads. I've tried more than one.
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Haven't actually worn them for a long period yet. I will definitely keep my ears open. No pun intended. :facepalm:
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I've got the extreme isolation - 25 db headphones too. Paid $50 and considered them a great value.
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Make sure you have the virtual headphone volume up fully as well as the hardware knob. It's on the QAP at the bottom confusingly labeled as "Monitor" with two sliders unhelpfully labeled "D" (delay, WTF?) and "L" (level). Turn the "L" all the way up - it's stoopid to have it anywhere else AFAIK.
Yeah that is dumb. Thanks Ron - I didn't realise that it was for the headphones. Who would have thunk!
I finally got around to this and thanks.
I don't see the monitor that you mentioned. Now at the moment my ipad is running detached and on it's own. meaning the DL1608 is elsewhere. will it show up once it is attached or am I missing something? I am using MD 2.1.1
Chris
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I finally got around to this and thanks.
I don't see the monitor that you mentioned. Now at the moment my ipad is running detached and on it's own. meaning the DL1608 is elsewhere. will it show up once it is attached or am I missing something? I am using MD 2.1.1
Chris
I assumed you were using V3 of MF, no clue using the obsolete MF. Could be hardware - or upgrading to the latest MF might fix it?
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Dumb question, is anything soloed?
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When you're 250 feet out from the stage, it's really confusing to listen to soloed channels that aren't delayed. Not exactly the market this mixer plays in, but it's an interesting feature to have available.
I use high isolation headphones so not a problem for me :-) . Is anybody really running a headphone line out 250 feet or using a 250 foot snake with their DL1608? I only use the headphones from sidestage myself...
Not a 250' line, but I do use an IEM system with cans on my DL32R. And as someone who has actually used the feature, I feel qualified in saying that it helps. But to each his own.
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I hadn't thought about IEMs out in front while mixing. I've got a set but haven't used them out. (Transmitter is already mounted in my mixing stack.) Will keep that in mind. I running sound for a play next week. Might be a good place to try them out. (Dress rehearsal Friday night with two shows on Saturday.)
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It works great and maintains your wireless only connection. The effects section on the DL32R is pretty rudimentary so I also control an effects rack via wireless MIDI. That way the rack can sit on top of the mixer in a typical send/return arrangement. I control it using a second iPad mini.
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my scenario...
band,PA,and DL, on a small island.
me,ipad,talkback mic and IEM,(and of course the audience) over the sea, on the coast, 20/30m away...
1+ for delay on phones
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It works great and maintains your wireless only connection. The effects section on the DL32R is pretty rudimentary so I also control an effects rack via wireless MIDI. That way the rack can sit on top of the mixer in a typical send/return arrangement. I control it using a second iPad mini.
What are you running for your midi setup?
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The rack has a lexicon MPX500, TC M300, and a TC D-two delay. They are networked using an iconnectMIDI4+ interface, using the same network as the mixer. On the iPad end,I'm using MIDI designer to build my own custom controllers. That App is freakin' awesome. If you've never tried it, you should, it's like designing your MIDI controller on a blank piece of paper with a CAD program.
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thanks, I'll check it out. I'm running MainStage 3 on a mac mini for the keyboard rig but I've thought about running my MBP for FOH as well using MainStage with audio strips to make an effects loop with an aux and back into a channel.
I'm really hoping that someday Master Fader will have midi control added so that MF parameters can be controlled via hardware controllers and also have a page of faders/buttons to control outboard gear. Changing keyboard patch could control any effects, volume, eq etc. the possibilities would be endless!
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Gents
i finally up[graded to 4.0
Am looking for the QAP "monitor" feature mentioned earlier in this post. Any help for this blind ding bat would be great.
Chris
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Top right corner just to the left off the shows button (display) it is three dots over a bar :-)
Martin