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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: 5.1 likes and dislikes
« Last post by Trshot on March 10, 2020, 06:20:20 PM »
well almost enough. I will need to put a clause bubble on all of my Master Fader Youtube videos... Since Mackie no longer supports my Mackie products, I can no longer support the world with generous, knowledgeable FREE support as I have done for hundreds and hundreds of Mackie DL customers around the world. I am confident that when Ben Olswang left Mackie, that was the end of DL. Sad....   

I personally want to thank you for all the videos you took the time to make to help us to better understand the mixers software and mixing in general. I'm also sorry to hear what Mackie has done with regard to your present desk and it's lack of future software updates.
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: 5.1 experience and router question
« Last post by dpdan on March 10, 2020, 06:13:58 PM »
TF Rack,
(1) Tio1608-D which is a 2U external audio Dante stage box,
and a Dante card for the TF Rack.
That gives me 32 inputs and about 24 outputs,
without sounding sarcastic,

it will be nice to not have to send audio to the right main output and crank the level to full blast including distortion, just to create enough resistance in the ribbon cable connection then,  turn down, and unmute the mains, after that parade of shenanigans, (which is common practice at every job) the right channel will work for the rest of the gig without any problem.

 
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: 5.1 experience and router question
« Last post by WK154 on March 09, 2020, 09:52:15 PM »
Dan which TF did you pick up? Yes your decision to stay with your current routers is fine. When you do run into traffic issues you have a way out for a while.
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: 5.1 experience and router question
« Last post by WK154 on March 09, 2020, 08:11:09 PM »
Update:

Good news: I've used the Nighthawk Ax4 router for 2 gigs without any problems. Seems to be rock solid without any noticeable disconnections. It takes a bit longer to bootup compared to the AE. I've got a bunch of outdoor summer festivals booked, kicking off in May. Hopefully all will work well with a few thousand cell phones in close proximity. Hopefully the virus wont screw up the coming festival season to much.

Also, I sold my old ipad that was giving me fits with the fader response issues I was having. (Got $100 for it, which I thought was decent) I took your advise and picked up the brand new ipad 10.2" 7th gen (late 2019) for $239 from my local microcenter which is close by. Those stores are unbelievable. Next gig is on the 21st.

Thanks for the recommendations!

Glad everything worked out for you. Netgears is usually on top of things and have never disappointed. Expect some more firmware updates and this is for all AX products and not just Netgear.
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: 5.1 experience and router question
« Last post by WK154 on March 09, 2020, 07:47:29 PM »
Dan I thought that the control limitation might be the problem. Glad you found it. Not like the Mackie with 20 cooks in the kitchen. I am sending this via the AX4 and it was definitely slow with DHCP and other tasks such as firmware updates. Patience is required with this one. The response otherwise seems to be good. A little early to weed out other issues and I expect some additional firmware updates down the road. I will be testing this for a while.
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: 5.1 experience and router question
« Last post by Yorgaki1 on March 09, 2020, 07:25:34 PM »
Update:

Good news: I've used the Nighthawk Ax4 router for 2 gigs without any problems. Seems to be rock solid without any noticeable disconnections. It takes a bit longer to bootup compared to the AE. I've got a bunch of outdoor summer festivals booked, kicking off in May. Hopefully all will work well with a few thousand cell phones in close proximity. Hopefully the virus wont screw up the coming festival season to much.

Also, I sold my old ipad that was giving me fits with the fader response issues I was having. (Got $100 for it, which I thought was decent) I took your advise and picked up the brand new ipad 10.2" 7th gen (late 2019) for $239 from my local microcenter which is close by. Those stores are unbelievable. Next gig is on the 21st.

Thanks for the recommendations!
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: 5.1 experience and router question
« Last post by dpdan on March 09, 2020, 06:01:02 PM »
OK, I just got off the phone with Yamaha tech support which is nothing short of FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I actually read to him the previous post to this one, that I had just made here describing my dilemma in detail,
he immediately figured out why the StageMix app was constantly disconnecting...
it turns out that ONLY ONE StageMix app can run at a time.

The system can run up to ten Monitor Mix apps, including one StageMix and one instance of TF Editor for computer.

So, I do not need to buy a new router for this Yamaha TF mixer. I will continue to use my Apple routers till they DIE! or Apple creates an iOS "UPDATE" that will forever KILL their routers:) Maybe they will outlast me.

I apologize for all the time you wasted on this stuff, all it took is for one youtube video to lead me to believe that I could run three instances of StageMix simultaneously,,, but NOPE.

 
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: 5.1 experience and router question
« Last post by dpdan on March 09, 2020, 05:38:01 PM »
thank you for the link...
I am waiting for Yamaha tech support to call me back shortly.

I can only use up to three iPads with the Yamaha mixer running StageMix, Mackie (up to twenty)
I have four iPads, two of which are gen 5 and two are gen 6, all running the latest iOS 13.3.1.

What is confusing to me is that one of the gen 5 iPads is solid, no disconnects.
Certainly I don't have three defective iPads, and here's how I know...
Yamaha also has a second app to allow musicians to run their own mix on their phones or iPads and
this "Monitor Mix" app runs flawlessly on all four iPads simultaneously. Up to ten devices can use Monitor Mix.
Yamaha also has a third app for computers, Mac and Windows and it is called TF Editor, it too runs absolutely flawless without any disconnects whatsoever.... all of these
descriptions above are the same regardless of the router I use,,, three different Airport Express routers, one Airport Extreme and even an old Netgear. All perfect, but not the StageMix app.

I will come back shortly and report what Yamaha tells me.

Thanks WK!
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: 5.1 experience and router question
« Last post by WK154 on March 09, 2020, 08:19:43 AM »
Well a rolling stone gathers no moss, hello Yamaha! Reverb is a good place to sell your AXIS system. Since I eventually had to pick up a Netgear AX4 anyways I picked one up at my local Walmart Superstore about 4 hrs. ago. Will let you know how that works out. The problem your describing should not be even at a close proximity. Here is the link for the Netgear:
  https://www.walmart.com/ip/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-AX4-4-Stream-AX3000-Wi-Fi-6-Router-RAX35-100NAS/760226420?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227314015343&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=391952074786&wl4=aud-430887228898:pla-831270607801&wl5=9031169&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=760226420&veh=sem&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI99u79riL6AIVlONkCh1TzgUQEAYYASABEgIv-_D_BwE
My first impression is that its kinda flimsy especially the no-removable antennas. I forget which Airport you have, the Express or the Extreme? That link should be the same no mater what its attached to. I'll look at it later. My only digital Yamaha I had experience with was the PM5D.
Cheers.

P.S. Can you set your DL32R near the Yamaha and since we are talking about moving one cable see if the same results is with the DL32R. This would eliminate the setup and leave things with Yamaha.
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Recording does not work on DL1608 with MF5 when program not in focus.  I play my backup tracks from within iTunes while I perform and record my show.  This recording is not working in MF5, as it only records when MF5 is showing, but not when iTunes is showing.  I really need this function - it is why I purchased the mixer in the first place!  Is there any way to do a factory reset on my mixer and start using MF4 again?  Is MF5 going to be fixed soon?
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