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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: New stuff coming
« Last post by gtrdudes on June 22, 2018, 10:40:10 PM »
A 24 channel with 12 ouputs would have filled the gap

I was told it was gonna be a 16 and a 24. Seems logical. Why another 32?
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: New stuff coming
« Last post by Michael Welter on June 22, 2018, 10:06:13 PM »
A 24 channel with 12 ouputs would have filled the gap
Yah, I was hoping to see a DL2412 to fill the niche that Behringer skipped over...
If Behringer isn't offering it, there must not be a market for it.  :facepalm:
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: New stuff coming
« Last post by RoadRanger on June 22, 2018, 09:34:35 PM »
A 24 channel with 12 ouputs would have filled the gap
Yah, I was hoping to see a DL2412 to fill the niche that Behringer skipped over...
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: New stuff coming
« Last post by Ampli on June 22, 2018, 05:18:23 AM »
A 24 channel with 12 ouputs would have filled the gap
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: Is the DL1608 Dead?
« Last post by RoadRanger on June 22, 2018, 04:49:03 AM »
AFAIK the X-Air apps will continue to support iOS 9 and KitKat (AKA my three iPads and my two 9" Android tablets)

I'll probably cut my DL1608 down (eliminate the tray) and use it with my newest Android 11" tablet that runs Nougat. Dunno what I'd use for backup though :-\ . It's unclear if you'll be able to us a Windows laptop wirelessly but I guess that'll work :) .
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: New stuff coming
« Last post by RoadRanger on June 22, 2018, 04:41:09 AM »
$700 DL16R vs. XR18 at $600 for most it won't fly.  Mackie needs to adjust this. Add to this untried software and it will be awhile before reliability is established.
If they had made it a 2U I'd be interested...
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: New stuff coming
« Last post by Ram on June 21, 2018, 10:07:09 PM »
Nedorama:>>Feels like they took the one feature on the DL32R that people liked and instead of adding it to both new ones, took it out for no apparent reason.
They may be thinking if they provided all the good stuff that DL32R offered, then then there will be not much differentiation and will have to discontinue DL32R model!
I am not defending their position- but guessing what their thinking might be !!
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: New stuff coming
« Last post by pytchley on June 21, 2018, 08:34:59 PM »
"DL16S and DL32S are compatible with iOS 10 or later, Android OS 6 or later.
Interesting - I just got a "you're forked" notice today from Dropbox - no longer supports KitKat as of 6/25 so my two 9" tablets are on their way to obsolescence :( . It's implied that MF 5.1 for the DL1608 won't run on any of my three iPads (two iPad 2's plus an original iPad Mini stuck on iOS 9.x) and my two tablets (that I use with my XR12) won't be supported :( . I did just get in today a $40 (shipped) 11" Android tablet that's running Nougat (and even has 5GHz  :eek:) so maybe I'm not totally forked :) .

I know this sucks for you, but on iOS 81% of devices are on iOS11, 14% on iOS10 and 5% on iOS9 or earlier. As a developer, it doesn't make sense to cater to 5% knowing that number will drop far lower in September with iOS12 launching. However, it's a testament that older phones and tablets like an iPad Air 2 or an iPhone 5s are running 11.4. I'm including the links from Apple and Android below, as these are what developers are looking at when they look to see minimum OS to support. In addition, Mackie now has years of data showing them how many (or few) iOS9 devices are being used; my guess is it's a lot lower than 5% and not worth supporting code that was last updated 2 years go - especially when you have 95% of devices running iOS 10 or higher. https://developer.apple.com/support/app-store/

Android, on the other hand, is a scattered S&*t show. Only 5.7% of Android phones are on Oreo, and only 62% are on Marshmallow or higher - but partially because Android didn't specify what needed to be included in phones and tablets to make them more future proof, and partially because the android team doesn't understand hardware and consumers - people aren't upgrading their phones/tablets yearly. https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/

KitKat and Lollipop is/was a pain in the ass as code needed to be different for each and every flavor of Android by each tablet and phone manufacturer. It's also only 10.3% of installed Android users. So Mackie is being smart and realizing that if they're going to support Android, they need to support the majority of users on the OS version that is easier to code across all Android-powered tablets and phones.

Blame Android, not Mackie on this. I had to work on KitKat compatibility for app-enabled products, and it sucks. While it sucks for us with older tablets, this is the right thing for them to do to keep development costs from spiraling out of control.

Sorry but all that is a load of propaganda bollocks. Most of the musicians i know seem to have ipad2s. I've got a 3 and a mini and despite their age(!!!) they still work fine and the batteries are holding up. These forced upgrades are a disgrace. We have been brainwashed into thinking that anything digital has a half-life of about 1 year after which we are shamed into updating at great expense. As far as I'm concerned Mackie can stuff their updates, they started with a market leading product with the best software and squandered their advantage with penny pinching support and some spectacular bugs. Now they are bringing out an overpriced Behringer clone. AH here i come.....
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: New stuff coming
« Last post by nedorama on June 21, 2018, 05:55:49 PM »
I stand corrected - it looks like the only way you can record is with a long USB cable, which is dumb. Ethernet cable appears to only extend range for using airport Express or direct connection to a laptop for Master Fader, but may not be carrying audio. Which it easily could...

Feels like they took the one feature on the DL32R that people liked and instead of adding it to both new ones, took it out for no apparent reason.
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: New stuff coming
« Last post by Ram on June 21, 2018, 05:31:34 PM »
>>you can do it either via WiFi or more likely a CAT 5e cable connected to your Mac/PC.

Are you saying we can record 16 tracks using wifi? I thought it has to be directly connected to USB port of the mixer.
The second point about cat 52 cable... you are suggesting connecting to the DAW on pc from the ethernet port of the mixer.  Can we record 16 tracks using this interface as well?
I thought recording is only from usb port.
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