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Hey, sorry, I have to bump this because I have a few questions I am a little unclear on for your settings suggestions.

Here's the setting we use for the lead vocalist in a rock band on our DL1608 in a small, kind of dead, room.

Setting:  Medium Room
Pre Delay:  96.4 ms
Decay:  1.57 sec
HF Damping:  12.22 kHz
LF Damping;   Off/20.0 Hz

Okay, cool, got all this. Simple edits in the app.

Channel Send: -13.9 dB
Reverb Master is low at -33.4 dB  It has vocal and some percussion in it

Here is where I am getting a little fuzzy!

First off, and this is really confusing me, when I am in the Reverb Channel trying to edit, I have two faders that both adjust together, meaning what I do to one, the other follows along. It seems like that fader is the main Reverb Channel volume. Is that what you mean by Reverb Master Channel above? Is that the one you are setting to -33.4 db?

Because, and this brings me to my second question, I now have access to a third fader, independent of the above two. It is called "Send", so is that the one you are setting to -13.9db?

Also, why don't I have access to that send in the main Reverb channel? Unless that is only adjusting the reverb to the ONE channel, say one of the vocal channels or one of the other instruments like a drum? Because I noticed that when I adjust the Reverb's own channel fader in "All" which corresponds to the small right fader in the reverb channel or the reverb effect in any channel it adjusts that fader in every single channel, including the Reverb channel. (Jeeze, I can't even describe this right, it's so confusing to me!).

BUT when I adjust the "send" to the top left (just right of where I chose "Medium Room", it seems to ONLY adjust that slider in the ONE channel, and not across the mixer. (How the hell do you guys figure all this out, by the way? I am lost. lol)

We also EQ the Reverb Master channel and take out a lot (not all) below 3K

Okay, I tried to at least follow the spirit of this one, but I am lost. I assume you meant taking out a couple of DBs from ALL the frequency at and below 3K? So I tried to do this by making the 4th band static at exactly 3K, so nothing above that is effected, and then taking out say 1 or 2 DBs under 3K across the board, say from 100Hz to 3K? But since only two of the bands (1 and 4) can be set for shelf or Bell, I can't see how to do this.

Edit: Okay, assuming I am near what you are suggesting here, I think I was just able to do this! I had the HPF overlapping with the first band, but when I separated Band 1 from the HPF, I was able to take out any variable number of DB's from 100 HZ to 3K by placing the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, bands all together right on 3K all at 0 DB. So now, simply by sliding up and down on Band 1, I can take out whatever I want globally from that huge frequency range. lol Why do I have the feeling that this isn't even close to what you are suggesting, though?
 

I don't think we've tailored any of the "Advanced" setting but I'm not sure.

Good, a little less complex works for me.

We also use a delay setting with the reverb.

I don't know what you mean by this? The only delay setting I see on the Reverb is the "Pre Delay" unless you are saying that you use the delay effect lightly in conjunction with the reverb effect?

You're quite correct it should have been MF V4.xx for the WiFi to use both iPads.
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It doesn't matter anyways, when you download MF5 you will only get V5.2. According to Wynn both MF 4.x and MF 5.x can be run on the same iPad. He used to have a DL1608 but is currently using a DL16S which I believe this test was from. So the docked old unit running V4.x and the WiFi V4.x should both be able to control the DL1608. See http://cacophony.aspinock.com/index.php?topic=1653.msg18909#msg18909
Cheers

Corrected to MF V4.xx above

The current version is 5.2. Is there anything wrong with it that I'm not aware of?
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So what, exactly am I losing if I stick with the last version of master fader?

For the "classic" DL1608, the key feature you're losing is the new effects engine. Also, 5.x versions have better copy/paste functions for whole channels (including sends), which can be very useful for re-organizing channels.

Another minor new feature: you can actually use the faders and mute/solo buttons in the overview screen.

That's prety much it.

For the DL1608, you'll need the 5.1 version - that's the version that introduced support for the older models. 5.0 only supported the new models (DL16S, DL32S)

Cheers,

Torsten