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Master Fader 5 Questions
« on: November 07, 2018, 07:41:36 PM »
So I see Master Fader 5 under Developer stuff on the Apple App Store...   Downloaded it, looked it over, see lots of little changes.

My questions are:

Surely, firmware has to be upgraded on the DL32R?

Is it possible to go back to MF4x after upgrading?

Can you load your previous shows as a starting point in MF5?

Where is the list of compatible OS versions for Android and iPad?
I'm wanting to make sure all my band members have compatible devices before switching.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2018, 07:55:00 PM by JohnMHoyt »

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Re: Master Fader 5 Questions
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2018, 08:05:30 PM »
Link to mackie's own information about Master Fader 5.x

Short answers. 
DL32R and DL1608 and DL804 will be added in version 5.1 expected next year.  (Early I hope.) 
You should be able to go back to MF4x by installing the firmware for that version.  Every major change requires a firmware update.  (No matter what direction you go.)
I'd export the shows you might want to use with any version of Master Fader and then import them into the version you're using.
MF5 requires iOS version 11x or later.  I've got two iPads that can't make the transition.  I don't know about android.  They might have that updated on the website link at the start of my reply.  I'm a DL1608 user from 2013.  We have similar problems.

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Re: Master Fader 5 Questions
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Re: Master Fader 5 Questions
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2018, 08:09:12 PM »
Link to mackie's own information about Master Fader 5.x

Short answers. 
DL32R and DL1608 and DL804 will be added in version 5.1 expected next year.  (Early I hope.) 
You should be able to go back to MF4x by installing the firmware for that version.  Every major change requires a firmware update.  (No matter what direction you go.)
I'd export the shows you might want to use with any version of Master Fader and then import them into the version you're using.
MF5 requires iOS version 11x or later.  I've got two iPads that can't make the transition.  I don't know about android.  They might have that updated on the website link at the start of my reply.  I'm a DL1608 user from 2013.  We have similar problems.

UGH... okay... was hoping we could get this going like, now... hahah

I'll be watching to see if people say they have good luck with devices like Fire 8 tablets from 2017 or newer - they are a dime a dozen....

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Re: Master Fader 5 Questions
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2018, 09:34:31 PM »
Master Fader 5 is not yet ready for the DL32R or AXIS DC16.
If you download 5 because you want to try it with the DL32R you could, but the DL32R will need a firmware update and Master Fader will prompt you to that when the first device is connected.
You can go back to 4.6.2 easily because 5 does not replace the Master Fader 4 icon on the iPad. If you try to go back to 4.6.2 you will need to do a firmware reset on the DL32R.
I would suggest just sticking with 4.6.2 and use 5 when it is released and is deemed trustworthy.   

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Re: Master Fader 5 Questions
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2018, 09:38:47 PM »
Master Fader 5 is not yet ready for the DL32R or AXIS DC16.
If you download 5 because you want to try it with the DL32R you could, but the DL32R will need a firmware update and Master Fader will prompt you to that when the first device is connected.
You can go back to 4.6.2 easily because 5 does not replace the Master Fader 4 icon on the iPad. If you try to go back to 4.6.2 you will need to do a firmware reset on the DL32R.
I would suggest just sticking with 4.6.2 and use 5 when it is released and is deemed trustworthy.   

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I have a spare DL32R I could try it on, have you tried it??????   I'm used to not-ready-for-prime-time software because I have helped develop many projects over the year, as alpha/beta tester, and co-developer.

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Re: Master Fader 5 Questions
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2018, 11:53:02 PM »
Hi John I would rather hear about the real thing than chasing ghosts.
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Re: Master Fader 5 Questions
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2018, 12:10:54 AM »
Hi John, enter at your own risk...  :P
since I am part of Mackie's beta team for Master Fader, it is against the agreement to discuss anything publically that pertains to any unreleased product,
so, I must resepect that agreement.

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Re: Master Fader 5 Questions
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2018, 11:36:31 AM »
I have to admit that I like what I see in MF5 and am anxious to use it soon too.  Please Mackie don't make us wait too long.

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Re: Master Fader 5 Questions
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2018, 11:42:16 AM »
Mackie always make you wait too long and then serve up a load of bugs. You will be treated as a beta tester...

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Re: Master Fader 5 Questions
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2018, 01:50:33 PM »
Can you load your previous shows as a starting point in MF5?

I believe that Mackie support stated in a recent Facebook comment that MasterFader 4 shows wouldn't be compatible with MF 5. Hope they'll reconsider at some point to at least allow to import MF4 shows.

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Re: Master Fader 5 Questions
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2018, 05:42:58 PM »
Matt Herrin covers that in this Facebook presentation of MF V5.0.
https://www.facebook.com/Mackie/videos/2256740504400432/
or read:
http://cacophony.aspinock.com/index.php?topic=1430.msg17360#msg17360
With Ben Olswang in charge what happened to the prior "code whisperer"?
More of the usual Mackie software management!
 
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Re: Master Fader 5 Questions
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2018, 10:22:14 PM »
Aaah, Matt clearly states that MF5 will import the shows from MF4 (11:30 in the video). Good to hear!

Interesting, though, is the following dialog in the comments accompanying the video:

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 15:32 I had the beta app of masterfader 5, it did prompt updates. I just downloaded master fader 5 & it did not prompt an update, is this normal? also it did not pull the shows from master fader 4 to 5, any help? thx

Mackie 0:00 That should be ok. Shows cannot be transferred from the previous version of Master Fader to v5.0.
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So apparently whoever is answering questions as "Mackie" is a bit wobbly on their facts? Just like "the A/B Input switch is only for USB drive files"...

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Re: Master Fader 5 Questions
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2018, 11:41:35 PM »
Sounds like the support staff has yet to be trained or maybe it's trial by fire?   ;D  To bad they're not forced to be Beta Testers.
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Re: Master Fader 5 Questions
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2018, 11:03:33 PM »
Torsten "Aaah, Matt clearly states that MF5 will import the shows from MF4 (11:30 in the video). Good to hear?"  it's unclear that it's done by MF5 or a seperate app not MF5.
If so that App doesn't exist yet or at least it requires a DLxxS attached for that to happen.
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