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Re: New DL1608 Forum
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2013, 10:58:45 AM »
Mackie????Whats that???
The Update 1.4 Master Fader and My Fader??? Its a complete joke...Shame!!!

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Re: New DL1608 Forum
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2013, 02:47:28 PM »
Mackie????Whats that???
The Update 1.4 Master Fader and My Fader??? Its a complete joke...Shame!!!
Are you a beta tester and have already had a chance to use it or are you talking out yer arse?

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Re: New DL1608 Forum
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2013, 06:29:32 PM »
I do wonder if one of the reasons Mackie and now Line 6 have shut their forums down is all the negative comment on the forums. In the end it can't be healthy to have all that negativity on a company forum. I really hope it doesn't pervade here.

I've already seen one "stupid" comment about the 1.4 release before its even available. Lets be a bit sensitive in this forum and be always constructive.

Mike.

Ps, thanks for setting it up!

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Re: New DL1608 Forum
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2013, 09:13:10 PM »
Good to see you made it here! Everybody is holding their breath until V1.4 is available in the app store - it should get interesting in here when that happens ;) .

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Re: New DL1608 Forum
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2013, 03:23:18 PM »
Thanks. Glad to be here.

BTW, my guitar has 12 strings  ;)

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Re: New DL1608 Forum
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2013, 03:47:32 PM »
BTW, my guitar has 12 strings  ;)

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Re: New DL1608 Forum
« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2013, 10:47:23 PM »
Great job setting up this forum :thu:... I had been using Mackie's forum (up until it shutdown) after purchasing my DL1608 (a little over a month ago)... I saw the link to this forum posted on Mackies Facebook page...since then this has been a Very informative and helpful resource...these forums are very imperative with a product such as the 1608...it has saved me from, what could have been, some aggravating gig nights!
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Re: New DL1608 Forum
« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2013, 07:18:27 PM »
The only other forum I'm a regular on is the Carvin Guitars community. They are very friendly, helpful, and civil over there. When I first started on the Mackie forum I was surprised to see how testy people were, and how many slammed the host company!

On the Carvin forum you can constructively criticize products (and they have a lot, between instruments and pro audio), and work through problems, but you can't rip the company! The moderators will delete your posts and eventually kick ya off, if your a troublemaker. Mackie had looked like they lost control of the community, with too many posts outright slamming their products and organization. You can't do that to your host, that's for the independent forums and troll havens.

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Re: New DL1608 Forum
« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2013, 02:31:01 PM »
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I do wonder if one of the reasons Mackie and now Line 6 have shut their forums down is all the negative comment on the forums.

Highly unlikely. Mackie's whole web presence and that of their parent company went dark for almost a week. Thats not a defensive move - thats a colossal screwup. I'm not saying that we shouldnt be civil,  but we shouldnt be afraid to call it like we see it either. If you did something lame (not that you would), would you want your friends to tell you to your face or only talk about it when you are not around? I was a lurker on the old DL forum and yeah, there was a small minority of testy people, but if I had put a deposit on a DL last February with the expectation of getting one of the first units, only to see the release date keep getting pushed back month after month after month, I'd be mighty testy as well.

I'm really liking my DL and would not go back to my old 24-4 board even if I could (which I cant, because I sold it - that's how much I like the DL). Having said that, there are still a few things that are annoying to deal with in a modern $1500 (w/iPad and router) mixer. For example, Mackie loves their iconic 'rude solo button' feature - but the only thing 'rude' about the solo on the DL is that its only accessible through the headphones.

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Re: New DL1608 Forum
« Reply #39 on: April 03, 2013, 02:56:07 PM »
For example, Mackie loves their iconic 'rude solo button' feature - but the only thing 'rude' about the solo on the DL is that its only accessible through the headphones.
In their defense us users specifically requested the "rude solo" feature be added and i think their addition of the "push to cancel all solos" is awesome :) . As to sending the solo to the iPad I don't think that is possible without significant latency and with the loss of the record "feature". It's easy enough to plug in some cheap wireless headphones or an IEM system if you really want this. If there is an issue I think I need to fix I'll walk up to the DL1608 sidestage and do it there anyways :) . OTOH my last gig in a stoopid small room required me to place the DL1608 where I couldn't access it without standing in front of the band :facepalm: so I just set the trims and didn't do any fine tuning thereafter that required soloing. A lot of tweaking is done more out of boredom than necessity anyways ;) .
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Re: New DL1608 Forum
« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2013, 03:25:28 PM »
A lot of tweaking is done more out of boredom than necessity anyways ;) .

Well said RR  ;D

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Re: New DL1608 Forum
« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2013, 04:50:02 PM »
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It's easy enough to plug in some cheap wireless headphones or an IEM system if you really want this.

Yeah, I've been thinking about that. Hard wiring the existing DL solo headphone output to the iPad mic input is probably cheaper/easier and would allow me to run 3rd party RTA on the solo bus with just an adapter, although AFIAK there is no off-the-shelf adapter to do this so I'd have to make one. Doable, but would have to be very careful to get the wiring right the first time or else either the DL or iPad headphone amp could be damaged. Might also require a pad, depending on how easy it is to control the DL phone outputs at very low level.

edit > It turns out that there IS an off the shelf cable that will attenuate the DL's solo out from a stereo headphone jack down to a mic level signal on the iPad/iPhone 3.5mm 4 conductor TRRS input. Its a little pricey, but no assembly required. AFAIK, its the cheapest way to be able to see the DL solo bus with an iPad RTA.  Just ordered one.   http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-iphone-mic42-a22.htm

Wireless is more tricky, what I'd really need is a decent quality wireless unit that I can send to the iPads mic input instead of cans, and that would take an input wireless plus a few adapters and probably at least one pad. More useful but not as attractive because (a) a big part of the appeal of the DL was less gear to deal with, (b) I'm a bit of a cheap bastard (partly why I went with DL instead of PreSonus in the first place)

Either way, for the amount time it would take me to make this work with just my one system, I'm pretty sure that one of Mackie's firmware jockeys could add a quick and dirty solo-to-32pin feature and make it work for everyone.

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A lot of tweaking is done more out of boredom than necessity anyways

On an easy night, sure. At the other extreme, 3 or 4 weeks ago I did sound for a 5 piece acoustic old time band. Decent sized room, but standing room only, small stage and boisterous loud crowd. Upright bass and fiddle, plus 3 members alternating on fiddle, mandos, guitars and banjo every other song. 3 vocals. As the place filled up and got loud, it was really tough to get the sound to project to the back of the room without someones pickup wanting to howl, so I was being way conservative. The band was tight, they and the bar were happy with the sound, but I felt like having some better info about what was in the inputs would have been a big help - both for getting a little more gain without fear of ringing and to make sure each instrument always stood out in the mix as the lineup alternated. For this situation, it would have been much less stressful with my old rig, although I'm not sure where I would have put it.

edit > in fairness, I've also done some of my easiest gigs ever when one of the bandmembers has an iPad. In both cases, they were former bandmates so I trusted them. Getting up to speed in MF enough to move monitor faders takes no time and even without image saving, the channel and output labeling is fairly foolproof. The bands were stoked about being able to mix their own monitors and keeping on top of FOH was easy.
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