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The mackie DL1608 white noise saga continued..

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Keyboard Magic:
Let's hope that iBloke is going to continue to have good luck and the white noise issue has been eliminated for him, no matter how it happened. My fingers are crossed. (no wonder I can't type!)   :)

gerenm63:

--- Quote from: WK154 on October 27, 2014, 06:48:16 PM ---IIRC iBloke stated that in one of the tests during "white noise" he pulled the ipad from the dock and the noise continued. This would seem to eliminate the iPad altogether except for the possible initiator of it. Where does that leave the DL? No matter what the source it's a Mackie product ergo a Mackie problem. Apple is definitely not going to solve it.

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I can see where the iPad, for some reason, would through garbage at the D/A converters that would leave them in an ambiguous state. If the iPad is pulled out before good data is received, they could become "stuck" there. Might there be a way to error check that? Maybe. It all depends on the D/A converter.

As far as it being Mackie's problem and no one else's, that a load of crap. If you float the ground on an XLR cable, and that causes hum on your SSL board, is that an SSL problem? No, it's not.

If the singer spits into your SM58 one time to many and it gums up the transducer and the mic starts to sound more like crap than an SM58 usually sounds through the PA, is that the fault of the PA? No, it's not.

So, if the Apple product throws crap into the Mackie product, and it causes the Mackie product to react badly, it's not a Mackie problem, it's an Apple problem.

WK154:

--- Quote from: gerenm63 on October 27, 2014, 07:16:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: WK154 on October 27, 2014, 06:48:16 PM ---IIRC iBloke stated that in one of the tests during "white noise" he pulled the ipad from the dock and the noise continued. This would seem to eliminate the iPad altogether except for the possible initiator of it. Where does that leave the DL? No matter what the source it's a Mackie product ergo a Mackie problem. Apple is definitely not going to solve it.

--- End quote ---

I can see where the iPad, for some reason, would through garbage at the D/A converters that would leave them in an ambiguous state. If the iPad is pulled out before good data is received, they could become "stuck" there. Might there be a way to error check that? Maybe. It all depends on the D/A converter.

As far as it being Mackie's problem and no one else's, that a load of crap. If you float the ground on an XLR cable, and that causes hum on your SSL board, is that an SSL problem? No, it's not.

If the singer spits into your SM58 one time to many and it gums up the transducer and the mic starts to sound more like crap than an SM58 usually sounds through the PA, is that the fault of the PA? No, it's not.

So, if the Apple product throws crap into the Mackie product, and it causes the Mackie product to react badly, it's not a Mackie problem, it's an Apple problem.

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Hardly a "load of crap" Apple didn't write MF Mackie did. All your other examples are external to a fully functional DL. Yes they can affect the "Audio System" but we're talking about a DL here which does not function well without a iPad/isomething.

gerenm63:

--- Quote from: WK154 on October 27, 2014, 07:29:25 PM ---Hardly a "load of crap" Apple didn't write MF Mackie did. All your other examples are external to a fully functional DL. Yes they can affect the "Audio System" but we're talking about a DL here which does not function well without a iPad/isomething.

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If the iPad is spitting crap, the DL is going to pass that crap.

While your mind is VERY obviously closed to the possibility that it's not a Mackie problem, the rest of us will do the right thing, and 1) see what iBloke's longer test results are, and (2) update some iPads that are, in concert with their mated DLs, exhibiting the problem and see if it clears it up.

WK154:

--- Quote from: gerenm63 on October 27, 2014, 07:32:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: WK154 on October 27, 2014, 07:29:25 PM ---Hardly a "load of crap" Apple didn't write MF Mackie did. All your other examples are external to a fully functional DL. Yes they can affect the "Audio System" but we're talking about a DL here which does not function well without a iPad/isomething.

--- End quote ---

If the iPad is spitting crap, the DL is going to pass that crap.

While your mind is VERY obviously closed to the possibility that it's not a Mackie problem, the rest of us will do the right thing, and 1) see what iBloke's longer test results are, and (2) update some iPads that are, in concert with their mated DLs, exhibiting the problem and see if it clears it up.

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Your logic has more holes than my pasta strainer and you clearly don't understand the problem. You might want to read the whole thread and nothing but the thread so help yourself. :) As far as you speaking for the "rest of us" that's pretty presumptuous.

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