Master Fader V2.0 Wants and Speculation

[Artaudio]

I'm not sure if this has already been brought up. But wouldn't it be great if we had the ability to lock our presets. I find that I sometimes accidentally save over my presets or sometimes accidentally delete one. It doesn't happen very often. But when it does it is usually a really important preset.

[Jerrylee]

So nobody brought this Facebook picture up. "Get that compressor out of the monitors #MF2".

[CyberHippy]

VERY much looking forward to that one

[Ram]

What is LR Mute?
-Ram

[WK154]

Old news Jerry
http://cacophony.aspinock.com/index.php?topic=234.msg3373#msg3373

[WK154]

What is LR Mute?
-Ram

I think they realized that global mute is about as useful as global phantom power. The one place that could have used mute they forgot about and that was Main LR.

[Jerrylee]

Old news Jerry
http://cacophony.aspinock.com/index.php?topic=234.msg3373#msg3373

Doh! I missed that one. The only one I saw was the channel linking thing.

[Keggles]

You know when you think about it, changeling the version no from 1.5 to 2.0 is a big leap. What we have seen so far in the teasers does not justify that change. So I figure there is going to be something monumental to come.
I wonder what that could be ? I would like to see multitrack recording via audiobus :-)

[sam.spoons]

Don't hold your breath, multitracking is a no-no for good technical/hardware reasons apparently. 

[WK154]

No technical reason that I can think of. Maybe they didn't want to pay Audibus royalties and don't have enough resources to do it themselves.

[sam.spoons]

Back in the good old days of the Ma*&ie F*&ums Ben said that there was no possibility of multitrack recording with the present hardware, the DL1608 could only ever record stereo to the iPad. If there was ever going to be a way to do it you can bet Ben (wearing his marketing hat) would have been shouting it from the roof of Mackie Towers.

It would be nice though wouldn't it

[RoadRanger]

I'm pretty sure it was a licensing issue, not a hardware limitation. Some folks up the chain from Ben think they can sell plenty of them without multitrack recording capability. Ain't that a hoot or what?

[Jerrylee]

Rr, Beno and many others have said multiple times it's a hardware limitation. Why are we still debating that? The dl was developed during iOS 4 which only offered 2 track recording. No one knew multitrack capabilities were going to be possible at that time. So the hardware was developed around that. This is also why Sam said that Beno said there is NO multitrack capabilities. If it was just a licensing thing he would have not used the word "no".

[WK154]

The infamous and all enlightening BenO statement about Multitrack recording.

beno (Admin, Mackie) commented  ·  October 31, 2012 3:00 pm  ·  Flag as inappropriate
Unfortunately, this is not possible with the current DL1608 hardware.

There is only one way that's possible and that Mackie implemented V1.1 USB, That's a 1995 issue spec and this mixer was started in 2010 (iOS 4 era). The USB V3.0 was issued in 2008. Talk about state of the art. The V1.1 could only handle 12Mbits on paper thus 17Mbits as required by 16 tracks at 44.1K without overhead would be impossible. There is just one problem with that theory, IT"S NOT HARDWARE!!! This is a digital mixer and after the A/D converter it's software moving numbers around until you send it back to analog via the D/A converter. Sending the data to the iPad won't even be noticed by the Tuna (Blackfin) on a USB 2.0 480Mbits on paper, 250Mbits real world transmission rate. The USB implementation is also not restricted to V1.1. The code is available from Analog Devices for V2.0 etc.. Next, the iOS v4 had usable multitasking implemented which would make multitrack a lot easier. Apple may not have provided more than 2 channel audio recording API's but that's why 3rd party developers and OEM's exist. They write their own code for this like Audiobus. In closing it's quite interesting to note that 16 channel recording request has not been rejected in the Mackie feature lists. So do you want to believe a marketing droid that can't tell the difference between hardware and software?

[Jkowtko]

Is there a special protocol for multi-track recording?  Or it is simply exposing multiple single or stereo tracks outputs from the device, for your computer's multi-track audio recording program to use?

Presonus StudioLive has had multi-track recording from day one: http://www.presonus.com/products/StudioLive-16.0.2

Yamaha just added it to their 01V96 series with the 01V96i:  http://usa.yamaha.com/products/live_sound/mixers/digital-mixers/01v96i/?mode=series

I would hope it's just a matter of programming ... this would be worthy of a v2.0 feature.