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Re: X18 X18R X16R X12R Details & Video
« Reply #375 on: September 21, 2015, 04:46:06 PM »
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Re: X18 X18R X16R X12R Details & Video
« Reply #376 on: September 21, 2015, 05:07:40 PM »
Did you try "forgetting" that (or all) network and them reconnecting?

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Re: X18 X18R X16R X12R Details & Video
« Reply #377 on: September 23, 2015, 08:25:13 AM »
Did you try "forgetting" that (or all) network and them reconnecting?


No not yet mate. Will do though. 😀

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Re: X18 X18R X16R X12R Details & Video
« Reply #378 on: September 25, 2015, 08:25:46 PM »
Behringer released new firmware a couple of weeks ago and new tablet and iOS apps this week. Vast improvement in the GUI and feature updates. I have to say, I would never consider a DL at this point. I've been using my XR18 for several months now and it's been a great tool. Major weakness is the lousy built in WiFi which is easily remedied with an external router. If you've been holding off on getting one, no need to wait anymore IMO.
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Re: X18 X18R X16R X12R Details & Video
« Reply #379 on: September 30, 2015, 07:47:54 PM »
Behringer released new firmware a couple of weeks ago and new tablet and iOS apps this week. Vast improvement in the GUI and feature updates. I have to say, I would never consider a DL at this point. I've been using my XR18 for several months now and it's been a great tool. Major weakness is the lousy built in WiFi which is easily remedied with an external router. If you've been holding off on getting one, no need to wait anymore IMO.
In general I would agree with you. The WiFi for a vintage unit is quite good but should never have been included in a new design. It is the most expensive single part in the mixer and as I stated many times before could have been left out. I would trade that for a fan and a 1Gig Ethernet chip instead or at least a dual 10/100. The dumbest thing I have ever seen a Mfg. do has to be their approach to documentation of a complex product. It amounts to a quick-start guide and an attempt on a manual via a Wiki. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot after trying to loose their past reputation. After 9 months they finally posted a block diagram   ::) They are forever under construction on their Web site and now have lost the link to the docs. Great job B..... :lol: Oh their claimed "Revolutionary auto-mix" was revolutionary 20 years ago. It pales in comparison to the XAP800,  EF2280 etc and certainly does not come close to Dan Dugan's E2. A minimal implementation for NOM (Number of Open Mics).
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Re: X18 X18R X16R X12R Details & Video
« Reply #380 on: November 26, 2015, 08:17:37 PM »
Well Greg and others yet another release of X-Air Edit V1.3. At least they're still improving things. Still waiting for V2.1 when hopefully everything will have quieted down and I can reliably use it on gigs. Maybe by NAMM 2016 for V2.0. Windows tablets will also be more plentiful and lower priced. A 13.5" tablet would be just right for my tastes without all that time wasting swiping or layering.
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Re: X18 X18R X16R X12R Details & Video
« Reply #381 on: November 28, 2015, 06:47:01 AM »
Well Greg and others yet another release of X-Air Edit V1.3. At least they're still improving things. Still waiting for V2.1 when hopefully everything will have quieted down and I can reliably use it on gigs. Maybe by NAMM 2016 for V2.0. Windows tablets will also be more plentiful and lower priced. A 13.5" tablet would be just right for my tastes without all that time wasting swiping or layering.
I'll have to try it on my $100 13.3" Android tablet. But - there doesn't seem to be any easy way of changing the scaling on the apps and this thing is fairly low res :( .

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Re: X18 X18R X16R X12R Details & Video
« Reply #382 on: December 28, 2015, 04:05:30 AM »
Well the other shoe dropped or shall we say the price. The X18 is now $499 and the XR12 is $249. The X18 is the same form factor as the DL1608 at almost half the price ( the price of a DL806) and double the features. Mackie has nothing to compete with the XR12. Maybe will see a price adjustment from Mackie.

Sorry forgot the XR16 now at $399 that's quite a dilemma for Mackie.
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Re: X18 X18R X16R X12R Details & Video
« Reply #383 on: December 28, 2015, 04:35:18 AM »
There's a serious free fall in analog board prices.  While I can easily do what I need to on a DL1608, it's clumsy compared to a similar analog board.  (Too many screens, but I can't see any serious way to reduce that.)  Lower prices for electronics??? How is that a surprise?  Did you know that the original Commodore 64 sold for $600 at computer store only and was last sold at $65 at the mass retailers.  Think that happened in about 2 years.   I for one isn't bugged by the price drops or the claims of better options.  I'm fully hoping the DL1608 is my last mixer.  (I'm 62 and don't see doing this much after 8 years.)  I'm also hoping my VK-77 is my last organ.  That's about $4K worth of equipment that should last the rest of my life. 

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Re: X18 X18R X16R X12R Details & Video
« Reply #384 on: December 28, 2015, 05:07:28 AM »
In checking pricing I noticed that Sweetwater dropped the DL806. What do they know and not telling?



"Sorry, the Mackie DL806 is no longer available. We've left this page up for reference only. Check out the great alternatives on this page or call toll-free (800) 222-4700 to speak with a Sweetwater Sales Engineer about similar products."

P.S. After a call to Sweetwater it was determined that they only meant the 30 pin version was no longer available.  ;D  What the "L".

Interestingly the "alternatives" listed are the DL1608 and three XR products not the DL806L.  ::)
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Re: X18 X18R X16R X12R Details & Video
« Reply #385 on: February 01, 2016, 07:54:12 PM »
Well it looks as though Be.....r laid a egg with  the  V1.5 for Android in the DCA/Mute controls. Taking a page out of M$ playbook it may be skip every other version time.  :)
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Re: X18 X18R X16R X12R Details & Video
« Reply #386 on: February 01, 2016, 08:00:41 PM »
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" I'm fully hoping the DL1608 is my last mixer.  (I'm 62 and don't see doing this much after 8 years.) "
Like Hell you will, I'm 74 and still going. You'll probably turn in that bike before your mixer. Yes we'll both do far less lugging racks around but we'll just fade away.  ;)
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Re: X18 X18R X16R X12R Details & Video
« Reply #387 on: February 01, 2016, 08:07:48 PM »
No intention of turning the bike in or fading away yet but then I'm only 63 (for a couple more weeks anyway).

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Re: X18 X18R X16R X12R Details & Video
« Reply #388 on: February 01, 2016, 08:20:01 PM »
No intention of turning the bike in or fading away yet but then I'm only 63 (for a couple more weeks anyway).
Well you're still "fade-ing" away, a play on words that may not have translated.  :)
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Re: X18 X18R X16R X12R Details & Video
« Reply #389 on: February 01, 2016, 08:53:09 PM »
Bloody hell, it's an 'old gits' convention I'm involved in....... I'm 63 in exactly 4 weeks...... I'f im still going at 73 I'll be a happy bunny indeed though I suspect I may not be doing this then (my Harley substitute)



 8) I'm the guy on the left, the crew is my drummer Chris, his first experience of skiff sailing (and the photographers were the bass player and his missus who were out in my little RHIB). I did give Chris a swim later in the day when the wind picked up....

We all played on the beach a couple of hours later to a crowd of around 250.



That was four years ago and our first "Band on the Beach" gig (a fundraiser for the RNLI). We've done it every year since, last year we had 450 in the audience and raised over 500 for the RNLI.
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