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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: Master Fader 5 Vs 4
« Last post by WK154 on July 24, 2022, 03:59:00 AM »
The obvious source for all your questions even if Mackie Tech support can't read is the MF manual. Appendix E. has a list of all the changes from 4.62 to 5.2. As they say RTFM. Mackie has always been great with documentation on this product. If anything strikes your fancy you can also get the details there.
Cheers
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: Master Fader 5 Vs 4
« Last post by WK154 on July 23, 2022, 04:27:10 PM »
My advice is to stick with V4.62. JohnMHoyt's list pretty much spells out the major differences. For more answers use the search function from the main page if you are looking for specifics.
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: Master Fader 5 Vs 4
« Last post by ChiroVette on July 22, 2022, 05:19:31 PM »
Is there a difference between 5.0 and 5.1 or are they one in the same?

By the way, that thread didn't really get into what the differences are between V4 and V5 (whether 5.0 if it exists, or 5.1). My only goal here is to decide whether or not V5 is a worthwhile enough upgrade from V4 to sacrifice being able to use one older, docked iPad and my brand, spanking new one on WiFi on the same mixer and/or show. All I know now, is Mackie tech support couldn't even tell me what the differences are between the V4 and and of the V5's. LMAO The tech support guy admitting he had no clue about it actually suggested I make a thread in this forum to find out, as he didn't know.  :lol:

By the way, I didn't know that V5 wasn't designed for the DL1608 and has been made "compatible," again, none of which helps me clearly define what V5 does that V4 doesn't.
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: Master Fader 5 Vs 4
« Last post by WK154 on July 22, 2022, 03:24:58 PM »
V5.0 was only for the DL16S and DL32S. V5.1 handled the DL1608 etc. Read all about it here.   http://cacophony.aspinock.com/index.php?topic=1536.msg18124#msg18124
Cheers

P.S. The search function works just fine to catch up on 9 years here.
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: Master Fader 5 Vs 4
« Last post by ChiroVette on July 22, 2022, 03:30:11 AM »
So what are the changes from V4 to V5?
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: Master Fader 5 Vs 4
« Last post by WK154 on July 22, 2022, 02:43:44 AM »
I guess you missed a lot since 2013. You will find out that using V5 will install the new bios update and your old V4 will no longer work AFAIK. Decision time.
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Master Fader 5 Vs 4
« Last post by ChiroVette on July 20, 2022, 08:39:11 PM »
Hey everyone, I have a question about upgrading from version 4 to version 5. Normally this would be a non-issue, and I would use the latest version of the app. However I just ordered a new iPad, eighth GEN, which does not dock with my DL1608. Now I have been using a third generation iPad, literally from about 10 years ago lol to run my mixer, and it has served me well as a decent work surface. Problem, of course, is that it only supports master fader 4.

Now, other than the fact that my old unit is, well really old, it functions fine still. And I like the fact that I can leave it docked. Now that I have a new iPad that can only run from the Wi-Fi, my dilemma is a trade-off of sorts. My real question then becomes, what am I losing if I just stay with master theater 4? You may be asking why I would need to do that, and the reason is because I spoke to Mackie tech support, and they told me that I cannot run the mixer with two different units using two different versions of the app, which does make sense.

I just like the idea of being able to control the mixer with two different iPads, which means I guess I could leave the iPad 3 docked while running the 8th GEN model on Wi-Fi only.

So what, exactly am I losing if I stick with the last version of master fader?
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: Question About Vocal Reverb
« Last post by ChiroVette on July 16, 2022, 01:40:55 AM »
Quote from: DigtheDL on July 15, 2022, 09:44:38 PM
Here's the setting we use for the lead vocalist in a rock band on our DL1608 in a small, kind of dead, room.


Thank you VERY MUCH! That should be a good starting point, particularly if someone more experience than me, like yourself, is using that. I am going to try them tomorrow when I am messing around with the mixer and some settings. I will post here how things go.

If anyone else wants to post their settings and pre-sets, I am more than happy to try them as well! :)
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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Re: Question About Vocal Reverb
« Last post by DigtheDL on July 15, 2022, 09:44:38 PM »
Here's the setting we use for the lead vocalist in a rock band on our DL1608 in a small, kind of dead, room.

Setting:  Medium Room
Pre Delay:  96.4 ms
Decay:  1.57 sec
HF Damping:  12.22 kHz
LF Damping;   Off/20.0 Hz

Channel Send: -13.9 dB
Reverb Master is low at -33.4 dB  It has vocal and some percussion in it
We also EQ the Reverb Master channel and take out a lot (not all) below 3K


I don't think we've tailored any of the "Advanced" setting but I'm not sure.

We also use a delay setting with the reverb.

Hope this helps you get started.

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DL1608/DL806/DL32R/ProDX Mixers / Question About Vocal Reverb
« Last post by ChiroVette on July 14, 2022, 01:11:03 AM »
Hey all!

Okay, I am a musician, not a sound man. Yes, I can get sound to come out of channels, and make them sound reasonably good to my ear and my audience when I mix for my live shows, but I really am not good at this at all, nor do I really aspire to be. I am so n00bish, I couldn't even really follow along with a lot of the Youtube instructional videos, where the guy was flying through adjusting gates and compressions and effects on various instruments. I couldn't even really hear the difference between his "before and after" stuff on various drum tracks when he added EQ on effects, and on kicks and snares and toms.

So I have decent equipment. PRX612 tops on 618XLF subs, and am using a Mackie 1608. Like I said, overall, I love the Mackie, and how easy most of the mixing is, and a lot of the features, but I am completely clueless with effects, compression, gating, and so on.

But to start off with, I would REALLY love to get some decent reverb and perhaps a little delay from the 1608 for vocals. I figure that's the place to start off. I can worry about instruments later, lol if at all!

But I really haven't been able to get decent vocal reverb from the 1608, and I am quite sure it's my fault and inexperience. There certainly seem to be enough settings. Whenever I play with the reverb it sounds like really "springy" and obnoxious. Not even sure if springy is the right word. But I find the verb on the vox to either be too overpowering and oppressive or just not very pleasant when I dial it back enough to not sound "nasty".

Can you folks please recommend some Reverb presets that might be at least good starting points for vox? Maybe some light delay/slapback as well? Though I am more concerned about reverb. I know presets have the rep of being crappy, so if not presets, do any of you have some reverb settings for vox that I can copy if you post all the relevant sliders/settings/choices to use?

Thanks again!
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