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Re: Pin One Problem on DL1608
« Reply #60 on: June 24, 2013, 04:26:24 PM »
Model: ST-C-075-12000600CT input 1.5A output 12V 4.5A/5A/6A(0-6A) big ferrite bead

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Re: Pin One Problem on DL1608
« Reply #61 on: June 24, 2013, 05:01:27 PM »
Clearly defective according to your evaluation. Mine has no such characteristics.
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Re: Pin One Problem on DL1608
« Reply #62 on: July 01, 2013, 02:41:59 AM »
I'm looking at 3A max with the router. Possible batteries only app less speakers.
Do you think the DL1608 and router will be OK with the 12.6 volts fully charged and 10.5 volts fully discharged a lead-acid battery will give it? I did think of doing that instead of using a UPS :) and float charging the battery at 13 volts but that's even more volts :( .

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Re: Pin One Problem on DL1608
« Reply #63 on: July 01, 2013, 03:01:23 AM »
At least you got a good one. As I stated the total load is around 2.3 with charging add another .35 for max phantom power and that should be it. I will add another .5 for my Netgear switch for the battery test. That should give me around 10 hrs of operation. This is a replacement for the UPS route. No point in going from AC to DC battery and back to AC and back to DC to power the DL. Trying to find some advantages to the DL1608 over others this may be it. Now for some huge solar panels for daytime gigs for speakers (just kidding). Will try to get the min/max voltage specs from Mackie.
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Re: Pin One Problem on DL1608
« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2013, 03:05:06 AM »
I've been waiting for Mackie tech support to get back to me on the DL's input voltage limits. Two phone calls and a week later with what appears to be Loud's (not Mackie anymore) only person manning the tech line (Rebecca), I got my answer. We can't tell you anything (or won't) other than what's in the manual. She claims to have checked (which took the time) with the product manager (or she's making it up as she goes along).  I should check with them down the road since it is a new product and they may provide additional information. I explained to her that I've had mine since Sept. of last year and the 1 year Warranty will soon come to an end. The other paths (e-mail and tech requests are still broken for over a  week by now). Does that mean will be hearing from India or Mexico soon?  Nottooloud walked into the only scenario that Mackie can offer at this time called replacement. I guess that they are hoping their dealers will handle most tech issues. Sounds awful familiar were did I run across this before? Aha the Computer industry.
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Re: Pin One Problem on DL1608
« Reply #65 on: July 16, 2013, 03:20:48 AM »
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Do you think the DL1608 and router will be OK with the 12.6 volts fully charged and 10.5 volts fully discharged a lead-acid battery will give it? I did think of doing that instead of using a UPS :) and float charging the battery at 13 volts but that's even more volts :( .
The DL AFAIK does not use 12V internally anywhere. It appears to be the power source for several DC to DC converters. Most converters (Boost, Flyback or Buck) have a wide voltage input range and could easily handle the 13V to 11.8V range (based on 30% battery discharge state for longer life). If not then I have a Boost 6amp converter to 12V using a 6V battery. Ripple and EMI as before would be my main concern. Will test this setup soon.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2013, 11:46:29 PM by WK154 »
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Re: Pin One Problem on DL1608
« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2013, 03:31:36 AM »
Yah, I'd not expect they would give out an input voltage spec as they want you using their supply.

BTW I did a gig Saturday night entirely on the 3 amp supply I bought for $9 from http://www.ebay.com/itm/200772780778 - worked great !
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Re: Pin One Problem on DL1608
« Reply #67 on: July 16, 2013, 08:41:15 AM »
Now for some huge solar panels for daytime gigs for speakers (just kidding).

There's a guy over here in Blighty running a mobile solar stage http://www.mobilesolarstage.co.uk/home.html we've worked with him and run our HK Projector rig, several JBL PRX512Ms and backline along with his LED lighting rig entirely solar powered 8)

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Re: Pin One Problem on DL1608
« Reply #68 on: July 16, 2013, 03:33:37 PM »
Very impressive and creative but probably a bit much for bar gigs. I've used Anchor and equivalents but usually they run out of battery in about 2 hrs (depending on the volume). For outdoors I will stick with Honda generators for now (very quiet).
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Re: Pin One Problem on DL1608
« Reply #69 on: July 16, 2013, 04:13:56 PM »
Yah, I'd not expect they would give out an input voltage spec as they want you using their supply.

BTW I did a gig Saturday night entirely on the 3 amp supply I bought for $9 from http://www.ebay.com/itm/200772780778 - worked great !
Does this solve the Pin One Problem on the DL1608?

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Re: Pin One Problem on DL1608
« Reply #70 on: July 16, 2013, 05:23:59 PM »
Does this solve the Pin One Problem on the DL1608?
Damned if I know - I don't run any unbalanced outputs and have not noticed any problems with unbalanced inputs (pair of stereo keys on the same power outlet as the mixer).