Midas M32

[WK154]

Just as I predicted the new Midas is the M32 a Midas incarnation of the X32. The obvious distinction being the name. The sampling rate goes to 24/192 but appears to be able be compatible with the S16 and P16. It will be interesting to see what expansion capabilities they may come up with. Here is the preliminary description/spec.
http://midasconsoles.com/Products/M32.html
Pricing will of course be interesting.

[Greg C.]

http://midasconsoles.com/Products/M32.html

[Harpman]

You got 5K? Saw it at the NAMM show.


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[Greg C.]

The main advantage to the higher sampling rate would be latency reduction. I think the main difference is more robust faders, encoders and buttons. The sloped control center is probably better ergonomically. Other than that, I don't expect much performance difference between it and the X32. They probably sound identical.

[WK154]

You got 5K? Saw it at the NAMM show.


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I just converted my X32 to a XM32 with about $5.00. I never understood why designers don't get the control panel design until you get to $10K. I think Neve was one of the first to provide a reasonable control surface. I've been doing this for quite a few years tilting most consoles to have better control access. In this case about 20 degrees. Been spoiled by heads-up displays.

[CyberHippy]

You got 5K? Saw it at the NAMM show.

If that sucker's going for $5000 I'm selling everything I own & getting one.

I'm not ready to believe that's the case, this sucker has the "Midas" name on it

[Greg C.]

f that sucker's going for $5000 I'm selling everything I own & getting one.

I'm not ready to believe that's the case, this sucker has the "Midas" name on it

If you want a real Midas instead of a Midinger, for a bit more you could step up to the Pro1. I believe they've lowered the price on those as well.

[Greg C.]

http://www.midasconsoles.com/Products/PRO1CC-TP.aspx

It has only 24 mic pre's built in, but with AES50 stage boxes, you can go up to 48 mic ins with connectivity for up to 96 inputs. Probably 2x as much as the M32 to get it up to the same mic input count. But it's a real Midas

[WK154]

After a preliminary view of what is available on this product and clearly one of the transitional Behringer to Midas products for the MG (Music Group) where is the demarcation in $ for the MG products? $4K or $5K? Currently the M32 is in the $5K range. Will we see a compact version in the $4K range named Neutron? Based on the little information leaked this is my assessment of the product differences.
    There is a clear difference in look. The faders are displayed in both the Midas and the Behringer sites and they are clearly different. The Midas unit looks far more robust. The preamps are different per Mfg. ad and sound different by others evaluation of the DL251's a more representative version of the preamps in the M32. It's quite clear that the control surface PCB's are different just from the visual. The output section may be the same physical layout but the boards can't be the same based on new preamps designs. That leaves the processing section which I have found no info on. Using the X32 as a baseline and comments from the developers leads me to this speculation. The X32 DSP's are 3rd gen parts and 4th gen (like the DL) are available as is the option to add more DSP's in the design (per developers). The main CPU is the bottom of the barrel in the FreeScale iMX series that goes up to 1 Gig+ with many additional feature. No dead end there. Memory can always be expanded to the addressing limits.  It's clear to say that there are no interchangeable parts between the X32 and the M32. That leaves the software. This appears to be similar to the X32 and certainly does not require a re-write but certainly needs mods if for no other reason than the Logo and possible use of new hardware features. Conditional compile at best, common code base. Communications wise AES50 may initially be used but there is the HyperMac a technology that's been around for at least 10 yrs. (1 Gig Ethernet), again expanding performance. The M32 is a transitional product for the MG well placed for the Behringer crowd that want to go higher or satisfy riders and little change in the workflow.

[robbocurry]

Did you see this WK?
http://www.allen-heath.com/ahproducts/qu-24/

[WK154]

Did you see this WK?
http://www.allen-heath.com/ahproducts/qu-24/

About time they spend a little money on marketing. This at the ~$2800 price tag should  be a good competitor for the X32. The QU 16 needs to go lower in price.

[robbocurry]

I've been promised a qu16 for £1500 by my local dealer when I want to buy. Would be nice if it was a bit less though. Saw the qu24 preorder price of £2199.

[WK154]

I've been promised a qu16 for £1500 by my local dealer when I want to buy. Would be nice if it was a bit less though. Saw the qu24 preorder price of £2199.

By today's exchange rate that's ~$2489 a bit high since Zzounds and Sweetwater sell it for $1999 that's £1205.

[Greg C.]

Nasty nasty...

http://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Reviews/MUSIC-Group-Reviews-E662385.htm

[WK154]

Being an optimist (I know hard to believe) I hope he becomes Chairman of the Board and backs off. My take:
http://soundforums.net/junior-varsity/4393-x32-discussion-440.html
Good luck Uli.