DL32 coming in October

[dpdan]

Sam, I understand your point of view, and it's a legit observation. From the manufacturer's point of view though, they are not responsible for any issues of the DL not working wirelessly since it would not have a built in router, and of course, when the industry changes like it does every ten minutes.... they won't have to update,  ... we will. 

Steve,
I am all ears.. (pun)

I used to take pictures but with so many repeat "customers shows" without naming the photo it was pointless to me.
How do you create a folder and put "named" pictures on the iPad without the use of a computer and iTunes?

Dan

[Kev tyler]

Hi guys

I suggest that internal router with an external option is the best of both worlds for us, dog and duck gig, use internal, live aid  gig use external and extenders,if the  internal breaks out of warranty you would not send it back in a hurry would you?



Regarding  remote control of the gains,   during set up I can imagine this must be a bit of a drag, but with relation  to recalling an entire mix from the week day month before, I just can't imagine musos are that regimental? Would you have to ensure that the keyboard player sets his volume the same every gig, that lightening boy is sending the Di from his pedal at the same volume, and the mics on the combo not to mention the kit are distanced the same every night!

I don't own a digital desk, these are just my own suppositions, but I have worked with great bands and bad, big rigs and small,good engineers and total pratts, it's surprising which shows have been the best, I have to wonder if total recall on the desk would have made that much difference in the end?

I hope you guys get all the bells and whistles you crave on this new product.

Cheers

Kev

[dpdan]

Hi Kevin, I preach all the time that digital boards that save shows/settings are only good to get you "in the ballpark"

It is a complete drag when channel 12 was used last for a sax, and was set around 12 o"clock, then I load a different band, and channel 12's gain is still set to 3 o'clock from a different show.
I provide sound for many different groups many times per month, and it is very frustrating when levels, panning, monitor levels, EQ and everything else is pretty much good to go, but the gains are not even close.

If you have ever used a digital console that "DOES" recall everything including gain settings, the Mackie is very very frustrating, but I knew this when I purchased it. So frustrating that Mackie's new DL32R mixer WILL REMEMBER the gain settings for each saved show/scene. Mackie learned their lesson... although for the price point, the DL1608 would have the gain on an analog potentiometer on the box, NOT adjustable by the app on the iPad.

Never is a show or preset going to be the same from event to event even if identical mics were used and positioned the same as last time. I was never insinuating that....
heck, balance of instruments as well as reverb and delay times change every single song. Recalling a show just gets things "about" ready to go a huge time saver.

Now, on a completely different subject, I wish Mackie would get the jargon correct, 
a Show should contain scenes. The DL 1608 does store shows, but inside the shows are snapshots,... the word snapshots should be replaced with scenes. 

just my .02 
 

[WK154]

Dan and SAM it's unfortunate that Mackie and others for that matter have not implemented ad hoc WiFi an ideal application for this. It would eliminate the access point requirement and since it is WiFi would not gain any benefits of a access point which also serves wired Ehternet. Last I checked there are no buffers available in airwaves. It requires a USB port which most new offerings now sport. Just needs the minimal software support since it is part of 802.11. The iPad supports ad hoc.

[dpdan]

most everything you mentioned is over my head, I am a recording engineer and sound guy for about 40 years and know virtually nothing about ad hoc, but thanks 

[WK154]

most everything you mentioned is over my head, I am a recording engineer and sound guy for about 40 years and know virtually nothing about ad hoc, but thanks 

It's simply point to point communications between devices, no brain surgery required just IP addresses.

[dpdan]

I believe you 

[Wynnd]

I've generally set my gains using headphones to balance the input levels.  I do adjust for different uses.  Horns are usually louder than singers and need to be down some.  I realize that I'm not running the inputs as hot as they can go, but in use, most are maxing out just below 0 db on the board.  It's not perfect, but it's pretty functional as long as you're doing it for the same people.  Doesn't help me with my panel discussions much.  (Got another one Wednesday.)

[Kev tyler]

Hi dan hi guys

I am pretty sure that if I was in your situation with the DL, I would attempt this solution

I would measure the pitch of the gain knobs and use a program on the PC to print out a sheet that you could laminate and punch out the holes, place over the knobs,  and then use a pen maybe of different colors for the groups on the night make a little mark next to the pot, for each act, you could keep them in a the case, they would take up no room.

Have you american guys ever seen the famous BBC TV show  BLUE PETER .?

cheers

[Greg C.]

Have you american guys ever seen the famous BBC TV show  BLUE PETER .?

That name would probably never make it past the TV censorship folks here

[robbocurry]

Hi dan hi guys

I am pretty sure that if I was in your situation with the DL, I would attempt this solution

I would measure the pitch of the gain knobs and use a program on the PC to print out a sheet that you could laminate and punch out the holes, place over the knobs,  and then use a pen maybe of different colors for the groups on the night make a little mark next to the pot, for each act, you could keep them in a the case, they would take up no room.

Have you american guys ever seen the famous BBC TV show  BLUE PETER .?


cheers

Lol. That's a great idea - down Shep!!

[sam.spoons]

or just use white LX tape

[Kev tyler]

Have you american guys ever seen the famous BBC TV show  BLUE PETER .?

That name would probably never make it past the TV censorship folks here

Arr you don't know what you have missed, this was a TV show for kids, if you could not make a gift at xmas from old nylon tights and toilet roll tube, well it wasn't worth making or receiving.

There are still many people in the uk, still picking up satellite TV from an old wire coat hanger and a shoe box.



 

[sam.spoons]

And don't forget the 'Fab(lon)'.... sorry, sticky backed plastic 

[Kev tyler]

Sticky  back plastic,

Wood grain effect lol

It was a great show, inspired me to always ponder if I could fix or build my own stuff, probably the reason I am so quick to point out the err ......areas for  improvement in gear and in apps too.

when I went to college one of the first discussions I had with the lecturer in general electronics, was about ditching the snake and having remote VCA s controlled by infra red, back in the 80s we didn't see this and much more coming for 300 quid , I always remember the look of  shock when the rich kid in class brought the Casio vl tone in, lecturer nearly collapsed, 

Kev