X18 X18R X16R X12R Details & Video

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[quote author =RoadRanger link=topic=754.msg9884#msg9884 date=1422126119]

In the old days, all you needed was gaffa tape and a few beer crates and you were on the way to stardom and all that

So, you was one of them uppidy guys that used gaffa instead of duct tape? LOL

I use DUCK tape, thank you!  Or if no duck tape available, at least 4 rolls of masking tape for one application gets the job done. 
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Tape? Tape?  You lucky sods.
We used to use bits of toilet covered in home made wallpaper paste. We'd also have to carry our gear on top of our heads whilst our manager threw bottles at us and breathed garlic in our general direction.
I have the photos to prove it too....
But they were good times, weren't they?

[Keyboard Magic]

[quote author =RoadRanger link=topic=754.msg9884#msg9884 date=1422126119]

In the old days, all you needed was gaffa tape and a few beer crates and you were on the way to stardom and all that

So, you was one of them uppidy guys that used gaffa instead of duct tape? LOL

I use DUCK tape, thank you!  Or if no duck tape available, at least 4 rolls of masking tape for one application gets the job done. 

Tape? Tape?  You lucky sods.
We used to use bits of toilet covered in home made wallpaper paste. We'd also have to carry our gear on top of our heads whilst our manager threw bottles at us and breathed garlic in our general direction.
I have the photos to prove it too....
But they were good times, weren't they?
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They certainly were, indeed. 

[Kev tyler]

I am against animal cruelty, so it's duct tape or 3m gaffa tape for me, although I have  had some nasty residue with 3m, my landlord in Ibiza actually charged me for gaffa tape damage to his front gate when I left a note for the postman, dam stuff would not come off.

My first speaker stands where based on builders Akro stands, we where younger dumber stronger then in the 80's.

 

[frede]

Place my order with Rat Sound for the X18 today. ETA is mid February. Price well below what I'm seeing online. I suspect I'll be lucky to see it by March. We shall see...

When I placed my pre-order for the XR12 from B&H, the original due date was March 1, now it's expected availability is June 01, 2015. I'm not holding my breath, in June 2013 I pre-ordered the X16i (DL1608 clone) they cancelled the order last Febuary 2014 as it was "discontinued".

[Keyboard Magic]

Place my order with Rat Sound for the X18 today. ETA is mid February. Price well below what I'm seeing online. I suspect I'll be lucky to see it by March. We shall see...

When I placed my pre-order for the XR12 from B&H, the original due date was March 1, now it's expected availability is June 01, 2015. I'm not holding my breath, in June 2013 I pre-ordered the X16i (DL1608 clone) they cancelled the order last Febuary 2014 as it was "discontinued".

I sure hope it shows up for you. 4 months is a long wait. Fingers crossed.

[WK154]

For the record the only one of the X18/XR series stated to have been shipped is the X18R. The rest are yet to be shipped from China. They're expected Feb 9th., ten days from now earlier than my estimate a while ago.
Correction I said Feb 6th they're behind by 3 days

[pytchley]

For the record the only one of the X18/XR series stated to have been shipped is the X18R. The rest are yet to be shipped from China. They're expected Feb 9th., ten days from now earlier than my estimate a while ago.

Do you see anyone actually selling them? Over here their biggest retailer Thomann in Germany have only the x air x18 (no longer any mention of the x18) and that's now set for for march 6 (2020 ), must be on a slow boat from China. This is the longest running vapourware nonsense (maybe should be re-christened airware) in history. Mackie have their many faults but at least we've been using the 1608 for 2 years and the 32 is here.
Still no word from any ipad4 or air users. Maybe there's just the five of us here? Lonely, lonely..............

[WK154]

No point in advertising product you don't have or are expecting delivery for, hence only the X18R or X18 Air X18R as it's now called.

[pytchley]

No point in advertising product you don't have or are expecting delivery for, hence only the X18R or X18 Air X18R as it's now called.

Except that they were last time I looked a couple of weeks ago also with an availability date in February or March.

[Kev tyler]

From a manufacturers point I think there is a lot  of point to be honest, but for a shop, that's just crazy,

the announcement of the clone Dl must have made many people stop and think about purchasing the actual mackie model, I know that is the case with me.

I did upset someone on the b forum when I asked were any of the baby x mixers at namm, of course they argued, well yes they were, but there is no footage of a physical working unit floating about, plenty of pads sitting on desks running that demo next to racks and such with no power or audio cables attached.

 

[RoadRanger]

^ Anybody wanna buy a shoebox that you can put your iPad on for $599? LOL

BTW the lack of matrices and routable outputs on the X-Air series really drives one towards the X32 Rack instead...

[WK154]

^ Anybody wanna buy a shoebox that you can put your iPad on for $599? LOL

BTW the lack of matrices and routable outputs on the X-Air series really drives one towards the X32 Rack instead...

You referring to the DL806 at $599 that just dropped another $100 to what I predicted a while ago and is now at $499. None of the Be.. are $599 They're 2,4,6 and 799. The DL1608 is slowly reaching my predicted $699 but hanging on at $799.
Does the DL1608 have route-able outs or matrices?   I'm used to both on my 8 years old XAP800 but for small venues I find it overkill. What I'm looking forward to is the Dan Dugan implementation on open mics. So far only Yamaha is including it in their QL series and only for speech.

[RoadRanger]

I have a situation where I need a center fill and room delays to give even coverage at lower SPLs for a possible new venue I might be involved in. The 16 input channels of the DL1608 is fine. The X32 Rack is 1/2 the price of the DL32R - so I do hope they can get the DL1608 to what I need - but probably not due solely to "marketing" not wanting it to compete with the DL32R on features . Also the FX on the DL32R is only one mediocre reverb more than the DL1608 - they really gotta step that up to play with the big boys IMO.

[WK154]

I have a situation where I need a center fill and room delays to give even coverage at lower SPLs for a possible new venue I might be involved in. The 16 input channels of the DL1608 is fine. The X32 Rack is 1/2 the price of the DL32R - so I do hope they can get the DL1608 to what I need - but probably not due solely to "marketing" not wanting it to compete with the DL32R on features . Also the FX on the DL32R is only one mediocre reverb more than the DL1608 - they really gotta step that up to play with the big boys IMO.

Sounds like a job for the DriveRack PA+ or similar units.
Oh yeah that XAP800 has delays and crossover capability as well and 12 outputs. At $8 + $7 for the new fan it's a bargain. Even at the typical $30-50 it's a steal.

[Kev tyler]

I think road ranger is implying that the current batch of baby x are as effective right now as a cardboard box with a pad on top.

at the end of the day it's horses for courses and when the new batch of products hit the shops, I think many guys will have a foot in both camps, I think both companies will and do offer one box suits all options but it's all going to come down to price,

Do you guys think the dl806 will be scrapped and the more is more philosophy will take over, or will mackie offer something to lure people away from what seems a ridiculously low priced x air 12?

Kev