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sam.spoons

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Re: DL 1608 and 32r videos
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2015, 03:07:42 PM »
Yup  :(

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Re: DL 1608 and 32r videos
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2015, 03:52:07 PM »
I have a saying too

" for goodness sake will you turn me up, and kill the bass drum and bass guitar in my monitors please"

I have a foul mouthed variant of the above, but it's not for polite company such as this.

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Re: DL 1608 and 32r videos
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2015, 03:55:23 PM »
I have a saying too

" for goodness sake will you turn me up, and kill the bass drum and bass guitar in my monitors please"

I have a foul mouthed variant of the above, but it's not for polite company such as this.

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"...will you turn me up..." is what I hear from every musician! Seems like everyone only want to hear themselves... :)
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Re: DL 1608 and 32r videos
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2015, 04:03:53 PM »
I know mate

But  when I work with a 6 piece band, and sometimes can't sound check the engineer on occasions has does an iem mix for me, full of bass , bass drum, synths, lead guitar, overheads on the drums, I can hear the guitar because the marshal stack is three feet away,

There are good singers and good engineers I guess,

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Re: DL 1608 and 32r videos
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2015, 04:22:11 PM »
I know mate

But  when I work with a 6 piece band, and sometimes can't sound check the engineer on occasions has does an iem mix for me, full of bass , bass drum, synths, lead guitar, overheads on the drums, I can hear the guitar because the marshal stack is three feet away,

There are good singers and good engineers I guess,

 :)

Oh, lordy! No, if I have to rough mix something for someone who can't be there for sound check -- or there's not going to be time for sound check -- then there's no bass or drums in the rough IEM mix -- and that person's vocal is always a little more "present" than anything else. Of course, once I get the mix for someone nailed down, it's stored safely away (along with their channel settings) for next time.
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Re: DL 1608 and 32r videos
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2015, 04:28:34 PM »
When I'm mixing for a muso who sings (and it's virtually always wedges at my end of the food chain) they get their own vocal first and, if they play an acoustic instrument that too. Anything else they only get if they ask for it. I'd do it differently if it was IEMs, I'd ask them to tell me precisely what they want in their monitor mix.

My best monitor desk anecdote though is of the '60 band drummer who had a JBL PRX635 (135 dB SPL) monitor about a metre from his left ear and when asked what he wanted in it he said "drums, just drums nothing else, and as loud as you can" we reached the point of feedback with the clip light on the speaker blinking and he said "louder"!!! TBF, when I told him that was it he said "thanks" and got on with the job. He must have been as deaf as a post  ::)

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Re: DL 1608 and 32r videos
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2015, 03:44:18 AM »
I have a saying.

When the sound is good, nobody notices

When the sound is bad, EVERYBODY notices!
THAT'S THE TRUTH

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Re: DL 1608 and 32r videos
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2015, 08:03:52 AM »
Often when faced with a musically challenged band who are failng on so many levels, the de-facto remark is:
"You can't polish a turd"
The older I get, the better I was!

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Re: DL 1608 and 32r videos
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2015, 09:02:01 AM »
Yes but you can roll it in glitter,

Cheers gerenm, job in Ibiza with your name on?

What annoys me about working with a live band is how together tight w.h.y  you are when you work on a tight stage, and as soon as you start doing festivals and such, the band wants to set up as far away from each other as possible and have everything in monitors, recipe for disaster imho.

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Re: DL 1608 and 32r videos
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2015, 11:48:47 AM »
Yea, I saw a suggestion that if you usually setup tightly, that even on large stages, you should continue to setup tightly.  That way, the sounds that you are used to hearing are still the sounds you are hearing.  I have run into bands that didn't make the transition to outdoor stages where so much sound leaves the stage.  If you don't make up that loss in volume to compensate, some musicians get lost.  (Really, shouldn't you be rehearsing at much lower volumes anyway?) 

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Re: DL 1608 and 32r videos
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2015, 03:06:24 PM »
Cheers gerenm, job in Ibiza with your name on?

Looks lovely! I'll be there next week! :)
(I wish!)
LOL!
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Re: DL 1608 and 32r videos
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2015, 03:11:13 PM »
Yes but you can roll it in glitter,

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Re: DL 1608 and 32r videos
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2015, 04:10:04 PM »
Yes but you can roll it in glitter,

Lol😝😝😝😝

My beloved TC Finalizer, formerly known as "The Turd Polisher" has been re-named "The Glitter Box"......

Oh, hang on a mo.... can't use the name Glitter any more..... :facepalm:

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Re: DL 1608 and 32r videos
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2015, 09:56:34 PM »
I tried introducing a regimented rehearsal process with my Spanish band, but by the time we had all shook hands and kissed each other  translated everything, it was time to go home.

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Re: DL 1608 and 32r videos
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2015, 10:16:00 PM »
Stage volume addressed in the attachment.
Does that have to be there?  Not anymore!